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Old 01-04-2008, 03:55 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #31
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jesus what are you next actually understanding about my clear statement that this is not a race debate.

Im a white englishmen why on gods earth would i feel the need to campaign for more ethnic names?

Its solely on the virtual of realism, this country grows in ethnic diversity day by day yet the regens are made out of players from the 1950s.

If you do happen to come across a duane he is most probably white, and a young black lad in the youth system is much more likely to have a name like "john" or "mike" rather than a more realistic afro carribean or african name.

20 years ago you couldnt find a black footballer for love nor money, now they consume over 30% of the premier league and for your information...no, they arent called keith, arthur or bob.

Look at the original arsenal youth setup at the start of the game, then look at it 5 years on then you`ll begin to realise where im coming from!
I do underrstand where you are coming from but that's just the way it is. At Bayern I have a youth team with only foreigners are ones that I bought, this is unrealistic. So perhaps the problem is that the game isn't coded to look elsewhere in the world for youth talent and in doing so has a rather stereotypical format for regens. Maybe it's just too much to add this factor to the game and easier to stick with the current coding, who knows. All I know is that I have German youth players with very Turkish names and have seen a few strange names in other national teams cosnidering the nation.

My point at the beginning was that even now there is not a huge number of first choice English players who are not white. This is fact yet some people took this as a racsist statement, which is ridiculous.

One thing that is worrying about the name thing is, why isn't it just a random generator of previous English players names. I once edited a CM to have Roberto Carlos as Northern Irish, the following season I got a youth team player called Samuel Roberto Carlos lol.

Re: no non-white players in the N.I. structure Jeff and Jim whitley have been the only 2 non white players to play for N.I. recently and they hardly got a lot of caps. I'm not saying the game is right, all i'm sayingis that compared to the current game it is not wholly up the left.

Some people seem to be suggesting that the game should be coded to realise that in 15 years time the whole England team could be non-white just as you stated there were none 20yrs ago. Asing a computer game to do this is insane.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:59 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #32
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i too was disgusted to see a white saynthan sivagnanam. he is a young blonde boy who plies his trade as an amc for bolton. were his parents supposed to be hippies?
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:31 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #33
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i too was disgusted to see a white saynthan sivagnanam. he is a young blonde boy who plies his trade as an amc for bolton. were his parents supposed to be hippies?
Distgusted is a bit extreme, its a game for gods sake
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:17 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #34
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fair play mate and as already mentioned it isnt the most troubling issue within the 2008 version.

Not looked in too much detail at the german regen system but the british one just seems floored, if anything i always felt that 10 years on there will be more minoritys coming through the youth systems.

PS:I wouldnt really bother with anyone who dares to suggest this is a race issue, I for one having read your comments didn think that for a single second!
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:56 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #35
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Whats the big deal about the names not long Ago sweden had seven adersons in the starting 11
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:09 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #36
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You guys should check the FREDs for Austrian clubs. About 75% of them are black with german names like Hermann and Friedrich
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:21 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #37
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it's a minor detail - remember when brazilian regens had the full names and not nicknames - now that was annoying!
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:06 PM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #38
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As the Uk becomes more diverse even names will become less associable with colour. Years ago here in Northern Ireland one was able to identify a some one as a protestant or catholic by name alone, this is not just as possible now!

I have a guy who works with me calle Seamus Donnelly, a tradtional white Catholic name, this guy is a Black Protestant.

Anyway this shouldnt even be an issue. If it annoys you so much turn off the player pics
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:04 AM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #39
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For me it ain't about color, for me it's about the more names the more fun plenty of özgakan, ali, vongh whatever non typical swedish name you can think of in IRL(in the football teams and outside)
But the regens on FM are all andersson, jönsson, and one or two "foreign" names.
(in sweden that is)

A bit unrealistic but really not much of a problem for me. ^^
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:18 AM   number of "ethnic" youth team players??? Post #40
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Anyway, I don't even know why I'm responding in this ridiculous thread. Hell will freeze over before this becomes an issue of even miniscule proportions .
I think THIS is the most important lesson here.

I think SI games have more important things to worry about than using "more ethnic" names.

Not all black people are called Leroy, Micah or Nedum. Many are called Shaun, Callum or Nathan!
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