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Old 01-04-2008, 04:56 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #11
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Thanks Jack McQueen,

ill take that into consideration next time im on the game :cool:
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:59 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #12
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Originally posted by Dart1234:
For me the game is unplayable (i.e. unfun) till this is sorted.
Did you actually read the first post? Jack indicated that there is no problem as long as you play a decent tactic.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:04 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #13
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Dart 1234,

37 shots i goal....that is total Bs and you know it unless you are going into the data editor and wrealing havoc. I have never seen it to that extent.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:10 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anilones:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Dart1234:
For me the game is unplayable (i.e. unfun) till this is sorted.
Did you actually read the first post? Jack indicated that there is no problem as long as you play a decent tactic. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry but this has nothing to do with tactics. But I wouldn't say the game is unplayable or unfun that's just ridiculous.

I have a really good tactic I win most games and went 16 games won in a row last season so it's not affecting the game per se but it is affecting the realism etc. 20 odd good chances a game is unrealistic and needs to be sorted. I don't think my scorelines have been affected really as I still can win 5v0 etc.

The problem is that my team creates far too many good chances e.g.

As Bayern I played VFB Stuttgart, I had 32 chances and scored 2 goals they had 7 chances and scored 2 goals. Now the scoreline isn't unrealistic and for em to score more than 2 against my main title rivals would be rubbish but in the same context to have 32 chances against my main rivals really is impossible.

Watching the highlights and seeing so many chances wasted is what is driving people mad because if you think about it a majority of people posting on this topic are still winning it's just that the situation is unrealistic and takes away from the game.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:15 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #15
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Look at the state of this. I was on a winning streak of four games before tis.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:21 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #16
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Originally posted by Jack McQueen:
I changed my formation. I was sort of experimenting, I went from 4231 to 442 Diamond. First I starting scoring lots but also letting in goals so I tweaked and tweaked until I am having (on average) reasonable games. I still get the odd 20+ shots to score 1 goal game but mostly the games are like my screen shot.

<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cameron1911:
You say that you changed your tactics and 'hey presto', but what exactly did you change?

The way you team played, the formation... what?

I find that the shot v goal thing exceedingly annoying and would like to be able to get back to enjoying the game like i could on 07. I dont want specifics, just what you changed.
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distinctly remember the arsenal-WHU game last season, arsenal had about 25 attempts on goal and never scored, we had one single effort just before half time and bobby zamora chipped lehmann to make it 1-0.

Our goalie had the game of his life that day much as i suspect the one on yours got the MOTM!

Strange yes, but certainly not beyond the realms of belief
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:34 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #17
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Originally posted by BHAMILTON:
Dart 1234,

37 shots i goal....that is total Bs and you know it unless you are going into the data editor and wrealing havoc. I have never seen it to that extent.
It can happen. Just because you havent seen it it doesnt mean it cant happen.

Same as even though I have the issue I will not assume that some wont be playing the game without this ever happening to them.

When will you understand this?!?
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Originally posted by kimz:
i have 2 formation, first 4DC/R/L 3DM 1AM 2ST and the second 4DC/R/L 1DM 2MC 1AM 2ST. identic formation only the DM and MC position is different

i test it, playing the same ai team and the same player of mine, same manager talk etc... (..by loading it after a match without saving)

and the result is... with the first formation my player is easier to score then the second in the same situation, 1 on 1 situation, marked by 1 defender, crosing ball, etc. (on 2d display)

then i test it with other ai team, and the same result happen

so i think that defensive formation have a better chance scoring ata the same situation...
Agree- its all to do with the crap way SI see the way football works.

A slow buildup that irl is actually easier to defend against will carve out superb chances.

Whereas a quick, buildup which catches the opposition on the backfoot is ineffective- even though the 2D shows clearcut chance after clearcut chance being created.

Its so skewed its unbelievable, and makes the challenge about beating FM, not applying real world tactical ideas as these simply do not work.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:41 PM   Shots vs Goals Post #19
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Originally posted by George Graham:

Agree- its all to do with the crap way SI see the way football works.

A slow buildup that irl is actually easier to defend against will carve out superb chances.

Whereas a quick, buildup which catches the opposition on the backfoot is ineffective- even though the 2D shows clearcut chance after clearcut chance being created.

Its so skewed its unbelievable, and makes the challenge about beating FM, not applying real world tactical ideas as these simply do not work.
Ray Houghton is never wrong, he's a tactical genius.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anilones:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by George Graham:

Agree- its all to do with the crap way SI see the way football works.

A slow buildup that irl is actually easier to defend against will carve out superb chances.

Whereas a quick, buildup which catches the opposition on the backfoot is ineffective- even though the 2D shows clearcut chance after clearcut chance being created.

Its so skewed its unbelievable, and makes the challenge about beating FM, not applying real world tactical ideas as these simply do not work.
Ray Houghton is never wrong, he's a tactical genius. </BLOCKQUOTE>

:thup:
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