retired_sheri

(Apologies if this is my 2nd thread, the other didn't seem to show up)

I've come to the conclusion that tactics on FM are pointless. Heres why:

I've played Football Manager since FM 05 and on FM 05 and FM 06 used to consider myself a very good tactictian and was quite good. Have brought FM 07 and now am worse than useless.. simply no success at all really. I've been happy to keep trying and am not your average "I'm useless at the game so FM is rubbish" as I enjoy the challenge but what I was to discover is very disheartening indeed.

A friend of mine managed southampton.. Got promoted, came 4th in his second season and won the league in his 3rd. When he was playing his game - suprised at his somewhat easy success considering FM 07 is his first FM I asked to look at his tactics... amazingly he replied "how do I find that screen?" I showed him and quite shockingly the tactics were untouched and all on default.. player instructions/team instructions and even training (not essential I know).

Another friend who was 4 seasons in with Athletico has won the league twice (another season finished unbeaten but finished 2nd) and also two champs league titles to his name - intrigued I asked about his tactics (wasn't going to copy as thats almost cheating imo) and he also screen printed and has never touched tactics!!!

After these discoveries and many hours fiddling with tactics I've realised it's just been a complete waste of time. I could leave them all at default and go on to win alot of trophies but that just takes the fun out of the game IMO as part of the game is trying to tactically outwit the opposition.

Before anyone says they'll be found out and will start to lose/they'll come crashing down they are now 7-9 seasons in respectivley and still no sign of slipping up - and considering alot of players don't get that far into the game; default tactics look the way to go!

People could claim I'm really dreadful and the tactics I'm using are worse than default but after my success on previous games - I highly doubt that, alot of people I know who get involved tactically also have struggled with this verion. Also the fact that default tactics brings so much success kinda makes that theory flawed aswell.

What are peoples thoughts on this?

retired_acivin

Two threads...is there any point?

Other than that, can't say! Hope you find the answer you are looking for.

retired_B-Scott

the default tactics are quite good - i suggest building a tactic that doesnt stray too far from the defaults and uses as much of the team doing the same things as possible

retired_d_ed01

Like, which default tactic are we talking about then? 442 and 433 also?

retired_BrownVanilla

I think the default tactics work well becuase they are a solid and effective base IMO don't go too far away from the defualts(as socks said)
unless you are extremely good with tactics

retired_tizy

default tactics are really useful, especially for those who have only started playing Fm07 for the first time. tend to use the defualt tactic and tweak player instructions, when i say tweak i mean only change them slightly, signifcant changes could end up messing the tactic up.

retired_fanito

This is an interesting development. I will try my game with default tactics next time. I'm pretty desperate at the moment. I'm almost giving up on this game again because of the recent pile of BS I'm encountering with it. Please excuse my language.

retired_kstaley

Interesting thread Samccfc,

In Abrovic`s AI thread he`s been looking at watching AssMen manage teams in friendly matches.I`ve done this also with a poor rated AssMan with Torquay.He`s won all the pre season friendlies some against weaker ,but some against better opposition, and in all games he`s changed the actual formation many times,not just the settings.So i`m begining to think the formation is MORE important than the tactic,ie the formation YOU use to combat the AI`s formation.

Just my 2 penny`s worth

retired_hilltopdaisy

The biggest difference in this years tactic is that they made it so that you now cant have sucess with great tactic and bad players unlike before when you could dominate the world by creating a SUPER tactic and using every day Joe's as a players.

If that is good thing or not i still havent decided

retired_traceyjo

hmmm whatever happened to countering everything that your opponents throw at you? didn't your friends need to change their teams' mentalities at least?