retired_dfhern

The guidelines indeed state it is a grey area it seems.

Could a mod or veteran LLaMa care to shed his light on this?

It seems that most LLaMa's (including me) say it's a no-no (in England, Germany and other countries where it is not allowed) however the guidelines state it is still a grey area and that only zealots will not use it.

I consider myself to be quite zealous about this so I won't use it, but it seems that it wouldn't be totally fair on aspiring LLaMa's to tell them they can't use them if it's still a grey area in the guidelines.

Or am I misreading/misunderstanding the issue?

firefighterhilf

You know what I will stay. I've been around these forums long enough to not let a couple of less than friendly responses put me off. How about an easier to digest summary of my Gateshead progress so far:

2007/2008 season - Team not playable so on holiday.

2008/2009 Season - Blue Square North.

Final position 16th.

2009/2010 season - Blue Square North

Final Position 1st :thup:

2010/2011 Season - Blue Square Premier

Final Position 14th

2011/2012 Season - Blue Square Premier

Final Position 15th

2012/2013 Season - Blue Square Premier

Final Position 16th :thdn:

2013/2014 Season - Blue Square Premier.

Final Position 3rd - Promoted via playoffs.
Top Scorer - Pacey striker with 25 goals.
Top Assists - On loan right winger with 17
Bank Balance 860k

retired_dfhern

That's great. Now everybody will get on my back because I've convinced you to stay.

retired_angeliwuoma

The main reason SI introduced the parent/feeder facility was to fix a problem in older versions when trying to get fringe players experience, the loan system in essence was nackered.

From what I can gather there was a considered debate when this element was introduced and the common consenous was that it does not fit in with the ethics of LLM & as such is considered out of bounds.

As is our mantra 'it's your game, play it as you wish' however there are no shades of grey IMO.

retired_dandanderk

This is just my opinion!

A lot of games out there are based on peoples imagination and there is nothing realistic about them but nothing wrong with them either.

Most sports games out there are realistic because they are based on the rules of the profesional sport.

Anyone can play these games in any way they wish but I for one like a game that is designed so that it can be played realisticly. As that is how I will play it.

Cliff

fatcatbetsy2007

Ok then, **** off.

retired_serenade

But other teams in the same division as you use feeder clubs and parent clubs, so does it not put you at a disadvantage by not using one?

KingsbayYHPE

Jesus Christ!

SI have ballsed up by allowing Feeder/Parent arrangements in The Home Nations.

It's not realistic.

It's against the LLM ethos being unrealistic.

WE DON'T USE IT.

Need I be more frank that that? (First **** to link that to the LLaMa Frank will be banned).

retired_angeliwuoma

Yes it does, not the point though.

retired_pmetzger1

Chopper: I'm coming across as one of the less friendly responses, but, quite frankly, given the heavy use of the parent/feeder facility and the fact that you have no desire to recant no LLaMa is going to be interested in your update no matter how succinctly you put it. In fact, you leave yourself open to unfriendly posts.

You seem like a decent enough chap though, so come back with a proper LLM save and you'll get wholehearted backing.

If the rules are "grey" then I'm sure they'll be clarified shortly.