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Old 11-13-2007, 06:28 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #21
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Then frankly you are being unreasonable. There are more moderate and successful ways to get action than simply demanding people submit to your ideas without a well thought out argument behind it.

As for your note on languages, all languages have influenced each other to some extent, and while Macedonian may be younger and have taken influences, it does not change its official status as a language one tiny bit.

And taking out your anger with your own government on this forum is a bit... pointless... This is an issue which has valid points on all sides, and until it is officially sorted out it is obviously still an issue - which means people will have problems with it, no matter what you do.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:28 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #22
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What do you want SI to do? Rename the FYR of Macedonia as "Skopje"? I don't think that's happening anytime soon..
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:30 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #23
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If you feel so strongly about it just use the bloody data editor that came with the game. I don't see a reason for whinging here, to be honest.
This is still your solution then. Make the changes as you see fit yourself.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:36 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #24
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If this is what all of you understand with my topic and giving answers like rename it in the editor etc. it might be mistake of mine to point this out because some of you canno't read or can barely understand the point.........
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:38 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #25
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We get the point. You're not getting ours: YOU'RE BEING UNREASONABLE. It's not a difficult thing to do, to edit it, if you can't stand seeing the name "Macedonia" in your game. But SI aren't going to change it, and I think a good lot of us are quite frankly getting a bit bemused at your constant demands.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:41 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #26
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If this is what all of you understand with my topic and giving answers like rename it in the editor etc. it might be mistake of mine to point this out because some of you canno't read or can barely understand the point.........
I understand your point fully, I actually studied the situation a while back.
The problem is that while YOU think this way, and there are many Greeks who think this way, there are also many non-Greeks (i.e. the Macedonians themselves among others) who do not. Until it is officially resolved there is no 'right' way to do this which will please all people - if you had it your way, Macedonians would be on here making the same point you are but from their side, and asking for changes like you are.

And it is rather pointless going into the details of the situation because the only matter of importance here is a few words which feature in Football Manager. The details do matter in real life negotiations on this issue to determine what those words should really be - but not here.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:43 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #27
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If this is what all of you understand with my topic and giving answers like rename it in the editor etc. it might be mistake of mine to point this out because some of you canno't read or can barely understand the point.........
It's rather childish of you to claim that everyone who disagrees with you "canno't read" (sic)
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:44 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #28
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They should remove Brazil from the game imo, it reminds me of Alan Brazil and he isn't Brazilian dammit.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:49 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #29
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Macedonia gained its independence peacefully from Yugoslavia in 1991, but Greece's objection to the new state's use of what it considered a Hellenic name and symbols delayed international recognition, which occurred under the provisional designation of "the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia." In 1995, Greece lifted a 20-month trade embargo and the two countries agreed to normalize relations. The United States began referring to Macedonia by its constitutional name, Republic of Macedonia, in 2004 and negotiations continue between Greece and Macedonia to resolve the name issue.
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conventional long form: Republic of Macedonia
conventional short form: Macedonia
local long form: Republika Makedonija
local short form: Makedonija
note: the provisional designation used by the UN, EU, and NATO is Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)
former: People's Republic of Macedonia, Socialist Republic of Macedonia
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Ethnic groups:
Macedonian 64.2%, Albanian 25.2%, Turkish 3.9%, Roma (Gypsy) 2.7%, Serb 1.8%, other 2.2% (2002 census)
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Macedonian 66.5%, Albanian 25.1%, Turkish 3.5%, Roma 1.9%, Serbian 1.2%, other 1.8% (2002 census)
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United Nations Resolution 225 (1993)

A/RES/47/225 98th plenary meeting 8 April 1993

Admission of the State whose application is contained in document A/47/876-S/25147 to membership in the United Nations

The General Assembly,

Having received the recommendation of the Security Council of 7 April 1993 that the State whose application is contained in document A/47/876-S/25147 should be admitted to membership in the United Nations,

Having considered the application for membership contained in document A/47/876-S/25147,

Decides to admit the State whose application is contained in document A/47/876-S/25147 to membership in the United Nations, this State being provisionally referred to for all purposes within the United Nations as "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" pending settlement of the difference that has arisen over the name of the State.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:50 PM   Macedonia Vs Skopje Post #30
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Some parts in Bulgaria and FYROM are inside the old borders of the Macedonian state but theres never been a country called Macedonia its was only a state/kingdom. Now in the age of Nationalism the people leaving inside those borders needed an identity after the collapse of Yugoslavia, after the second WW that region was named Macedonia which was similar to Greece“s point of view calling its region macedonia so basically they just picked the name cause it was available. You have to understand that almost 30% of the population in that region is Albanian the rest are Slavs/Bulgars, Slavs and Bulgars migrated into the Balkans from 500ad so its pretty clear thats its a misuse of the name in my opinion.

They got some good football players though.
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