retired_w0lfpack1

I'm done with this debate - I've other things I need to get to tonight.

However, I'd like to close by saying I think the breadth of argument here and the number of conflicting and amiguous definitions we've linked to or quoted in this article actually serve to prove Keane16MUFC's opening post:

I think, if you accept that, and accept that SI didn't mean it as a precise estimate or promise-of-an-outer-bound, you'll be much happier personally .. if only because you won't feel let down, etc.

Further, I suspect that you'll stumble across the phrase a couple of used colloquially and imprecisely again at some point in your life .. and if you go into that encounter expecting the precise definition, you may be injured worse than you have been by a free patch not being ready when you thought it would be... and at best, you'd be buying yourself unnecessary stress.

Rigidity of thought most often harms the rigid.

retired_lisa strom

Indeed, I am not expecting SI to release the patch before it is tested to be working PERFECTLY, but their "loosely term promise" gave us false hopes. Why drive our hopes UP so high and don't fulfill it? Why can't revert back to the good old days that no dates are given no matter how much begging and asking for a date to be given? </BLOCKQUOTE>

If you are going to be picky about what words he used, then I'd like to point out he never made any "promises" about a specific date.

It is simply a general statement to give us a rough idea of when he hopes the patch will be ready. I think you're taking this all a bit too literally to be honest.

I'm not loking to pick a fight, I just think we are looking at his post differently :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>"WILL" is the word

retired_robbo91

Maybe SI did have it done in a couple weeks, and now QA will have it for a few more, then it will have to be prepped for dispersal.......naw! I enjoy the debate of the term "couple", keep it up!
Wait let me have a turn.....Hmmmmm "Couple Of Weeks"......since the word weeks is plural then that word means more than one week. The word couple (pairing) and the word weeks (more than one week) are joined together that would mean the phrase means the "pairing or joining of more than one week". :cool:
Hey that was fun. :eek:

retired_lizzy

"We will be releasing a final version of the patch in a couple of weeks, once we're happy with it and have gone through a full test cycle internally. " From Miles Jacobson in the sticky.

That is a promise. It is a not 'general statement to give us a rough idea of when he hopes the patch will be ready'. There is no suggestion of 'hope' in the original statement. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Well they obviously were not happy with the patch hence the delay. What do you all want, a rushed patch that u can all moan about yet again or to wait a little while longer and have a top notch patch. I know what i choose

retired_cRankLin

I should add that I have always considered "couple" to mean 2. I just realise that it is impossible to put an exact date on the release of the patch so can safely assume Miles was estimating. I don't need him to add the word "hope" to realise this.

Its just common sense imo.

arman920

I'm just grateful he never said "a few days"

retired_2symonds

This is the exact reason we don't give dates. We were hoping to have the patch out in a couple of weeks and were only intending on having one beta patch. But things change and a second one was released to get a bit more feedback etc.

With this sort of process things crop up all the time that could change the plans somewhat, and the QA process starts again.