Emm

I seem to be having a few problems in my game with "grey" teams performing far above what I would expect.

It's not just me that they're beating. It's other "active" teams in my game and seems to becoming more and more of a problem.

Here is how I have done so far.....

So in the 4(ish) season I've been playing, I've played 13 "grey" teams.

My record is Played 13, Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 8.

Now I would like to add that for the first season that I played, my team were in danger of relegation from N.Irish Div 2 and as such shouldn't have been much better than most of these "grey" teams. Since then however, we have done quite well and only lost 12 games in almost 3 years. Despite that, we have been beaten on a pretty regular basis by "grey" teams in all of the Cup competitions.

We have just been played off the pitch in the Semi-Final of the N.Irish Cup by Newcastle (NIR), and it is getting a little bit hard to stomache. We beat Glentoran (2nd in the Premiership) in the Qtrs and I knew even before the game that we would lose.

While doing the opposition instructions, I check the opposition GK profile to see what foot he favours so I know which side to force him onto. While doing this, I noticed that he had an aerial ability rating of 20. I wal a little surprised to say the least and assumed that it would be made up elsewhere by some shocking stats. Not really.

Now while these stats aren't exactly brilliant, they make him the best GK playing in N.Ireland outside the Premiership. Maybe it was just the GK I though.

The other opposition profiles I look at are MR & ML as I want my players to force them inside rather than outside.

They are better than some of the wingers at Premiership clubs.

Maybe it's a team of "super greys" I thought so I kept looking.

This guy rivals the best centre-backs in the Country and would get into the U21's National team.

I think that makes him the most complete midfielder playing in N.Ireland in my game.

Up until now, I thought that the game was doing something wrong in games against "grey" teams, but this little discovery has got me thinking that it's just that the grey players being generated are just of too good a quality.

Is this what you are discovering when you lose to a "grey" team, or is this just a one off?

retired_iraenicole

hmm when i lost to grey teams i often checkked the other players, but they didnt seeam to be to good like your discovery..

Emm

You were playing in ENgland weren't you?

Maybe the issue is the level at which grey players are generated in each Country.

I've never really thought about it before, but I'm assuming that there is an average CA for grey players generated in each Nation. A grey player in N.Ireland for example, (where there are 3 existing playable leagues), shouldn't be anywhere near the standard of a grey play who is generated in a Nation with a significantly higher reputation than N.Ireland, but which doesn't have as many leagues.

Does that make sense ?

retired_iraenicole

yeah . but we can defintly conclude that they shouldnt be as good as those youre are playing against!

retired_pchandler

It's a well known bug (by us anyway), see here:
http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...3/m/4512097363

retired_halfshell69

Greys are dodgy in england too. I was just beaten 4-1 by matlock (who the hell are they??? i thought it was the name of a tv program) granted i was a lowly conference side, but still...the greys are lower than conf so they should be worse than the teams i played in at uni!
So far with vauxhall i've played 8 or so grey teams and lost to everyone, despite winning the conf N, and challenging for the BSP. It would appear that the ability of grey teams is set roughly 2 leagues too high!

Never had this problem on 07 so i guess it's just one of the wonderful new features of 08

Similarly i've noticed that playing the grey teams in the champions league (AEK, Bucharest etc) is harder than playing the likes of lyon, bayern, atletico etc. Seems to me that SI have just buggered whatever mechanism there was for randomly creating teams.

retired_clement

If you take a look at some weak international sides, like Andorra or Faroe Islands, you'll notice some greys who are WAY too good. As long as you don't manage an international side it's not really a big problem, but I like to play with the "retain players" option on and find it a bit strange when I manage the Faroe Islands and get dominated by American Samoa at home.

retired_v_meenucancer

north american nations with grey players seem to have been vastly overrated - in world cup qualifying these are some of the results i've just seen:

bahamas put out trinidad and tobago 5-2
guyana put out costa rica 2-1
netherland antilles beat guatemala on away goals
st lucia nearly went past the united states, the us eventually winning 5-4 on aggregate
mexico drawing 1-1 in their first leg against grenada
jamaica needing away goals to beat antigua

one of these results on its own might happen, but there's no way in a million years that they'd all happen in a single round of qualifying

oh, and the only minnows in north america to actually have some real players, surinam, lost 10-0 to all-grey cuba

FitnessDiva14

If I'm lucky enough to win the Champions League I often get beaten by "grey" teams in the Club World Chamionship