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Old 01-02-2008, 08:08 PM   Tactics: Who understands them and who doesn't? Post #41
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I thought I did. But just when I think I do, it slip slides away...
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:50 PM   Tactics: Who understands them and who doesn't? Post #42
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I was playing against Spurs with my 4-3-1-2 (Reading) they ripped me to shreds for 25 mins and eventually scored, I immediately changed to a 4-1-3-2 changing some personal instructions and players, we got back into the game and drew 1-1. Great? Maybe, I don't know if it was because of my changes or just because Spurs scored and 'lost interest' in the game.

I don't know if I'm a tactical genius or just lucky with transfers/injuries/morale at this point. Actually in no way am I lucky with injuries I have 8 central midfielders injured and only 1 goalkeeper put of 4 fit at the moment.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:02 PM   Tactics: Who understands them and who doesn't? Post #43
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On a good day when I'm outwitting someone like Paul Ince on his own turf despite his team having all the possession I feel as though I understand the tactics. On another day when I'm losing at home again to a crappy team because I always seem to play badly at home despite altering my tactics, then I don't understand the tactics.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:09 PM   Tactics: Who understands them and who doesn't? Post #44
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Unfortunately I still have no idea when it comes to tactics in FM08. I've managed quite well in every iteration of the game so far, but the key points in the 08 engine eludes me. I'm afraid I'm seriously stuck and without a far superior team I'll never be able to "punch above my weight".

I havent given up yet though, but a sacking is just around the corner in my current game and that may be the proverbial straw.

FM08 is the very first game I've ever been sacked in
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:20 PM   Tactics: Who understands them and who doesn't? Post #45
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I find myself having some idea about the tactics but for whatever reason i can't seem to work idividual tactics and team tactics together.

i mean one day a can beat the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea at away {all be it im playin as Liverpool} and lose to Portsmouth, Reading and Derby at home.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:41 PM   Tactics: Who understands them and who doesn't? Post #46
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It's frustrating to build your own. I can usually recognize what's going wrong but I don't know how to fix it.

IE: I was playing Barcelona and Messi and Ronaldinho kept running going the flanks and getting in good crosses. I did what I thought should work and made my fullbacks mark them closely and backtrack, but they still got outran and Ronaldinho and Messi just cut inside and passed to a wide-open Henry. Nothing I did seemed to work.

Like others have mentioned, results seem arbitrary. One game I struggle to beat Almeria (who are in last) at home and the next I crush Sevilla 4-1 away. Sometimes, things just seem to work out, but I think there is too much emphasis on tactics. If you put Manchester United out there against Derby, for instance, and tell them to do whatever the hell they want, I'm sure United would still win just based on player talent.

It's made even more unreasonable when your players miss the easiest chances that even I could make (and I suck). I had to quit my old Aston Villa game because my team just would not score no matter what tactic I downloaded. I quit after a game v. West Ham where I had 17 shots on target and scored once. West Ham won in injury time on a blatantly offside goal. La Liga is going better, even though my board was unhappy with a 1-1 draw at Barcelona where they scored (yet another) offside equalizer in injury time. To be fair, they should have scored like 10 goals but their finishing was user-like (20 shots, like 7 on target) while mine was AI-like (1 shot on target, one goal)!
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