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Old 01-02-2008, 12:45 AM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #1
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Surely, judging player potential and ability are the basic require for scouts but what i am asking is something different.

Have you notice that some scout can get all the detail of a player with his first scout attempt but some require 2~3 attempts?

For example, some scout can get a very in depth report down to asking price of a player in his first scouting visit. Meanwhile, some scout need repeating the scouting to get the report down to asking price level.

I cant really figure out what attributes make such different, although either of these scouts looks equally good on paper. (Judging player ability, potential 18+)

Anyone get any idea for this??
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personally, i think determination plays a part too, the higher the scout's determination rating, the more likely he is to work that little bit harder to get as much information as possible on a player or from a certain area. not sure whether this actually is the case or not, but seems to make sense to me...
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:46 AM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #3
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I've also noticed that some scouts will come back with an asking price the selling club would be willing to accept and other scouts don't!!

would this be down to their determination too?
or would it be another attribute?
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:59 AM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #4
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I have just take a look with my scouts determination rating.

The two scouts give me asking price detail in first attempt have 12 and 18 in determination.

The other 5 scouts who are not able to give asking price detail in first attempt have determination from 6 to 13.

Determination "might" be one of the factors. I think we need more info to check that out. (similar to what combination of attributes give 7 stars training for coaches)
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:10 AM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #5
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Rickooko - I am not sure that Determination is one of the factors for more indepth reports?

Comparing my scouts to the indepth reports go like this -

Scout 1 - JA 11 (Abiltiy), JP 14 (Potential), De 17(Determination), Ad 9(Adaptability), Ta 17 (Tactical Knowledge) Report Detail = average detail

Scout 2 - JA 17, JP 18, De 11, Ad 14, Ta 10 Report Detail = Very Good detail, including Min Price & Max Price, wages etc.

Scout 3 - JA 17, JP 15, De 17, Ad 12, Ta 11 Report Detail - average, same detail as scout 1

Scout 4 - JA 16, JP 16, De 13, Ad 11, Ta 9 Report Detail - average same detail as scout 1 & 3

Summary - I think that based on the above, if your scout has the following attributes as a mininum then you should get more detail reports - JA 17< , JP 18<, Ad 14< - I think that the adaptability attribute plays an important role in obtain more detail reports.

I am going to run a few tests on duration of scouting by games on Scout 3 & Scout 2 one has a higher attribute in determination whilst the other in adaptability.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:18 AM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #6
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I read somewhere on the forum that tactical knowledge plays an important role in your scout's report...along with the level of knowledge your scout has in the region where u r sending him (i think :p )
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:52 AM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #7
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Rickooko - I am not sure that Determination is one of the factors for more indepth reports?

Comparing my scouts to the indepth reports go like this -

Scout 1 - JA 11 (Abiltiy), JP 14 (Potential), De 17(Determination), Ad 9(Adaptability), Ta 17 (Tactical Knowledge) Report Detail = average detail

Scout 2 - JA 17, JP 18, De 11, Ad 14, Ta 10 Report Detail = Very Good detail, including Min Price & Max Price, wages etc.

Scout 3 - JA 17, JP 15, De 17, Ad 12, Ta 11 Report Detail - average, same detail as scout 1

Scout 4 - JA 16, JP 16, De 13, Ad 11, Ta 9 Report Detail - average same detail as scout 1 & 3

Summary - I think that based on the above, if your scout has the following attributes as a mininum then you should get more detail reports - JA 17< , JP 18<, Ad 14< - I think that the adaptability attribute plays an important role in obtain more detail reports.

I am going to run a few tests on duration of scouting by games on Scout 3 & Scout 2 one has a higher attribute in determination whilst the other in adaptability.
The 2 scouts who give me very detail report have stats like this:

Ayres Albuquerque: JA 16, JP 20, DE 12, AD 8, TA 14

Jacques Lichtenstein: JA 18, JP 17, DE 18, AD, 15, TA 11

Therefore i think Adaptability >14 might not be true as Ayres only got 8 for that.

I start to think it simply depend on the "hidden attributes" of the scout, especially the "current ability" for them.
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Old 01-02-2008, 05:22 AM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #8
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Ricko, I viewed all my scouts reports which gives you the, Cur A, Pot A, personality, min AP, & Max AP, the scout with the higher Adaptibity had far more detail than the scout with determination attribute?

In your case, could it be that higher the Judging potentials out weigh the other attributes? therefore needing to equal 35+ points to get detail reports? and maybe the other attributes have no bearing, expect maybe tactical which I could see would only add to scouting Next Opposition ?
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:02 PM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #9
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Perhaps it's also got to do with the 'knowledge' of the particular scout.

So if I send a French scout to go scout a Bordeaux player, he may come back with all the info in his 1st or 2nd attempt than if I send my Chilean scout to do the same.

Why? Because the French guy already has perfect knowledge of France where as that Chilean scout probably doesn't or not full knowledge anyway.

Keep in mind, what I'm suggesting is only a 'theory' and not actually tested by me. It'd make sense but I don't know if this is what affects it so I could be very well wrong.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:13 PM   Do you know what make a "GOOD" scout in FM?? Post #10
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Does anyone know if there is an attribute that helps a scout retain knowledge?

My scouts are pretty poor and tend to lose all their knowledge of the first country they scout before finishing scouting the region.
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