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Old 11-30-2005, 08:44 PM   A Humble Request Post #81
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...(massive tipping)...This is why I consider it to be cheating to assume a nationality other than what you have IRL.
You're assuming people pick a certain nationality to make the game easier. I thought I already gave some other reasons but feel free to ignore them. I've managed in Germany using an Icelandic nationality before, even though I'm actually German. Is this still cheating?
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:47 PM   A Humble Request Post #82
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My grand uncle faile....uh...wait.
certainly not because of a lack of confidence
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:49 PM   A Humble Request Post #83
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nah. It was because his best..uhm...players were injured.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:29 AM   A Humble Request Post #84
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You're assuming people pick a certain nationality to make the game easier. I thought I already gave some other reasons but feel free to ignore them. I've managed in Germany using an Icelandic nationality before, even though I'm actually German. Is this still cheating?
I don't care what the reasoning is. Personally I think it ought to be a guideline that people play as the nationality that they truly are, for better or for worse. But not everyone is going to agree, just as many people don't agree with the LLM guidelines and hang out on the tactics and good players forums. It's all down to how you choose to play the game and your own value system.

But, if people feel free to assume any identity they want, then why not simply have an option in the game where you can be Rudi Voller or Sir Alex Ferguson? Why even bother to create a fictional name and nationality then? Just take over as a real manager in the game. But I digress.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:02 AM   A Humble Request Post #85
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It's all down to how you choose to play the game and your own value system.
See, the thing that ticks me off is not your argument, but how you keep implying that you have the moral high ground.

There are basically two points in your argument: a) it's not realistic, and b) it can be used to make the game easier.

Allow me to rebut both of these.
a) It's every bit as realistic as assuming you can take over a football club in the first place. You pick a database size, countries to play in, a name, a birth date, a nationality, and a club. Then the game begins. All of these parameters should be up to your discretion. I don't hear anybody complaining that the game restricts you from entering an age under 30. Is the game cheating in making some managers older than they really are?

b) You can make the game easier or harder by choosing which league you play as well. You can make it easier or harder by setting the level of detail you choose for the database. A huge database certainly makes it easier to find players in the lower leagues than a small one, yet most LLaMas suggest to use as large a database as possible. Cheaters?

Finally, why would you want to preclude someone from China to experience managing an English club the same way as someone from England? What if that person has lived in England all his life but is not a citizen? He'll have to pretend not knowing the language when he firsts starts out?

I could go on but it's getting tedious.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:16 AM   A Humble Request Post #86
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As Dale said. If Llamas, of all the types of people who play the game, don't consider a certain action to be cheating, you can take their word that it really isn't cheating.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:45 AM   A Humble Request Post #87
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... the game restricts you from entering an age under 30.
It's my birthday that FM tries giving you as default \o/

I do the same as Ollie, BTW.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:21 AM   A Humble Request Post #88
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I can't remember hitting on Killie Burds.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:40 AM   A Humble Request Post #89
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Ollie's confused his weebles and his wizzles. Bless.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:42 AM   A Humble Request Post #90
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I can't remember lots of things then, it seems.
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