retired_mdibrell

It is a fantasy world. A world where we manage a football club. Why we can't be Brazilian or, god forbid, Pooflandish is beyond me.

Personally I always tick the Jocklander box but I couldn't give a fiddler's fart if you wanted to be the nationality of the league you are playing in.

retired_tinkfaeree

I don't understand Greg Andrade's point. What does picking your own name and nationality to do with turning off the attribute masking?

That would be like saying "Hey sweety, since you ate a steak today, you have to hop on one leg tomorrow".

retired_cathylynn820

Damn it. Not here as well

retired_cathylynn820

On a more serious note. I pick the nationality of the nation I'm playing in, unless that nation is Scandinavian(Norway, Sweden or Denmark) and I don't cheat.

retired_lapepe

I pick the real nationality as I prefer to not get job offers for top-flight clubs within a year or two. I'm happy to say it took almost seven full seasons before someone offered me a job, or the press speculated about it \o/

retired_cathylynn820

Any chance that it didn't actually have anything to do with your nationality

retired_B_RAN

People have got this completely wrong. I am not looking for an argument or to redefine LLM guidelines. I have never stated in any of my posts that LLM guidelines should be redefined.

What I have said is that this entire discussion is about a matter of opinion and personal values. And, personally, I think that people should play as the nationality that they actually are. Subjectively, I believe that this should be the guideline that they use, whether they're playing by the LLM rules or not.

Whenever any of us utters any sort of assertion rooted in values of any kind, we are making a moral statement. The entire LLM guidelines make a moral statement, and, based on your view, it seems that LLaMas are assuming moral high ground as well. So, should we reject that moral stance as inappropriate and throw out the guidelines? I would certainly say no.

We all have a right to our own opinions, and even the LLaMa guidelines are nothing but a matter of opinion. The only difference is that they were agreed upon by a group of people. Beyond those guidelines, we're all free to add our own restrictions, and I don't see what the problem is if my opinion is that choosing a fictional nationality is cheating. But this seems to bother some people. That suggests to me that maybe there is some merit to what I'm saying. Otherwise, why all the fuss? My words are only little pixels on a computer screen, folks.


I feel the same way, Pangaea. I prefer to take the hard road and face up to the challenges that my real life nationality brings in the game. If the same level of success takes longer to elicit job offers with my real life nationality as opposed to the fictional one, then I'll take the greater challenge every time.

retired_lapepe

Any chance that it didn't actually have anything to do with your nationality </BLOCKQUOTE>

Definitely
But I choose to think that it is

retired_mrsjb

I feel the same way, Pangaea. I prefer to take the hard road and face up to the challenges that my real life nationality brings in the game. If the same level of success takes longer to elicit job offers with my real life nationality as opposed to the fictional one, then I'll take the greater challenge every time. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You're making the (incorrect) assumption that people are 'trading up'. A lot of the people that use a different nationality seem to be trading down, partly on the grounds that certain nations have an inflated reputation.

I use my own nationality wherever. I'm in Italy. I've managed a team of expected playoff challengers to the bottom 4 at New Year in season 1. Wrexham come calling I reject on the grounds it's utter pish that they'd want me. I certainly don't blame people who trade down their nationality to avoid this.

Uknowmehfo

Being Andorran is :cool:

I had to wait for 5 seasons before getting an offer in my last FM05 save