retired_lovestoned4805

Michal you almost sounded like Pooh's Tigger then

retired_mdibrell

This playing your own nationality surely gives us haggis munchers an unfair advantage as we come from the best country in the world?

Have you ever noticed how many managers are into haggis in Poofland?

retired_mdibrell

Aw'right Dave.

retired_davek

retired_sargent

They must be catching the wild ones and keeping them alive on artificial mountains in the back garden.

Just like the Welsh with sheep then.

retired_pmetzger1

Almost; we have artificial gardens on our back mountains.

retired_B_RAN

There is absolutely no higher ground implied in this statement. What it actually implies is moral subjectivism, which acknowledges that there is no such thing as higher moral ground. There is only each person's individual, subjective values.


You should be able to enter your actual age, even if it's under 30, so, yes, this is a problem with the game. As far as realism goes, if you want to consider the entire premise of the game to be a departure from reality, then why not allow anything to go? How is sending your lower league scouts to Tunisia any less realistic than this colossal fantasy of becoming a football manager in the first place?

Also, if it's simply arbitrary and should be up to one's discretion to pick an age, nationality, and so on, then why not arbitrarily choose to turn attribute masking off and use the search function?

It's a Pandora's Box in a way.


If we could all run huge database with all leagues running, then we should do it. This would generate the greatest possible realism in the game, because all those lower league players you mention exist in real life, and they can be scouted. With smaller databases, you're actually getting a weaker representation of reality. Perfect realism would insure that things are just as difficult as IRL, and I think that's what a management sim is ultimately aiming to achieve, insofar as it is possible.

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Finally, why would you want to preclude someone from China to experience managing an English club the same way as someone from England? What if that person has lived in England all his life but is not a citizen? He'll have to pretend not knowing the language when he firsts starts out?[QUOTE]

I have recommended to SI in the past that we should be able to select our actual spoken languages as managers when we start games. But this feature hasn't been added. But, despite knowning English, a Chinese immigrant in England is going to face a very different sort of situation as a manager than an English native, so the other aspects of the game that may make it more difficult are realistic.

Now, if he doesn't want to play the game under his actual nationality and circumstances, then he is free to do so.

As I've mentioned, this is all down to personal values and opinion. I'm not going to convince you, and you're not going to convince me. But one thing is for sure ... there is at least ONE LLaMa that does not sign off on the idea of setting your nationality as whatever you want.

Let's just put this to rest, because, unless there is a referendum for adding this to the LLM guidelines, then it's all a moot point.

retired_berrysale

There is absolutely no higher ground implied in this statement. What it actually implies is moral subjectivism, which acknowledges that there is no such thing as higher moral ground. There is only each person's individual, subjective values.
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If you post in here, you post by LLM fora rules and guidelines or not at all. Simple, really.


Utter rubbish. A teenager as a manager of a club?


I was going to carry on answering the rest of your points but then I realised you're trying to re-define LLM and if you disagree with almost all the LLM rules and guidelines, I have one question.

Why are you bothering posting here?

bodymassindicator

No, you are claiming the higher moral ground by putting everything other than your way down to cheating and comparing this with other guidelines:
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If you don't see the difference between these things I can't help you. I can see your point why you prefer using your own nationality, and it's a perfectly good reason. Just don't claim that it's the same as the other guidelines.

bodymassindicator

Actually, I don't think he's disagreeing with existing LLM rules. He'd just like to add to them.