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Old 11-14-2007, 11:24 AM   si miss golden opportunity Post #11
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I sick of people overexagerating on these forums, of course the game is playable, sure there are a couple of small bugs here and there, but they will fixed.

However i dont think the moaning will end, how you feel if SI said 'we dont need this constant criticism' and pulled out the market, what would you do, play FIFA manager?
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:01 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #12
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No game is ever released without bugs, it's simply not possible. What are you not happy about with the game?

Si have been at the forefront of football management games for years now and I fully expect them to stay there for the foreseeable future.
amazing....i take it you haven't been reading any of the threads posted in the last few weeks??
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:06 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #13
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Agree with the posters who are supporting SI and saying its impossible to publish a game without bugs.

BUT......imo SI need to make sure that the initial release never has major issues with the match engine on day one, as imo if this area doesnt have any glaring holes then other bugs tend to be forgiven.

Not that Im not delighted with the match engine (especially after the latest beta), but to me its the focal point of the game and the moment that brings everything you do together, so imo SI should ensure this area doesnt have any major issues above all.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:46 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #14
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Originally posted by blythgeordie:
Having played fifa manager and champ man,i think that if si hadn't released such a bug ridden game,new buyers would have loved it straight away.
Thats true, FM08 isnt as good a release as FM07 and it probably puts peope off.

However CM isnt any better and will still require a patch, for example playing the demo the very first thing I noticed was 150throw ins per game.

My point is that yes FM needs a patch but anyone who goes and plays CM because of that is jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:52 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #15
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I seem to remember FM07 getting slated on here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:13 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #16
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Every version brings its own negativity and that doesnt subside until the patches.

FM07 was actually pretty well received and certainly the best one I remember.

It still had faults and its share of critics though.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:24 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #17
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İ had 2 messi's in cm for god's sake!

Fm has bugs ok sure but,it's still playable,enjoyable anyway
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:24 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #18
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it all depends on what thinking hat one has on:

pragmatist: FM is still the best football mgmt. sim, so i take it for what it is

perfectionist: each bug bothers to no end

dreamer: sees the potential for development that FM has, given its current base

critic: well, critical of various aspects of the game !

in the end, the most enjoyable hat to put on for me is the dreamer's. FM is a good game now, but with some improvement, it could be out of the world.

steady improvements in the match engine and greater interactivity within the game (with players, board, media, staff) are the two areas that i'd fancy improvements in.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:34 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #19
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FM may always be released with bugs, but the bugs I've seen in FM releases have never been on the scale of what I've witnessed in EA management games in the past.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:45 PM   si miss golden opportunity Post #20
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Their alternative is to wait until everything is ironed out.
1. we don't want that as we want the product ASAP
2. they don't want that. The longer we wait for FM the more likely we are to buy pap like CM or LMA

Even with all the bugs I bet everyone is still enjoying it, you just imagine "what if..." and wait for the final patch to be released
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