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Old 01-06-2007, 02:30 AM   EDT-name-files for future regens: update 6 jan 2007 Post #1
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Everything downloadable at the bottom of the post

Updated:

- The French file has been added. About 4300 names. There are some Arabian names as well, but they do not have a double nationality, because this is simply impossible to implement. So they’re all French.

- The Argentine file is also up. 1500+ names

- The Former-USSR file has been uploaded. 3200+ names from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, Moldova and the Baltic states Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia

- The Nordic file has been updated: (a) The command lines where an Arabian first name was combined with a Nordic surname or vice versa has been removed or given an Arabian first name and surname. This was especially the case in Sweden and to minor extent in Denmark and Norway. (b) about 70 Finnish names have been added by ‘Goal Scorer’ (c) Some double names have been deleted. (d) Some common names like jonsson, andersson, persson, larsson have been deleted because they are being generated too many times already. (e) There were some cases where the name Alexander was followed by a blank space, making a large space appear between first and last name. This has been corrected. (f)The problem where Swedish names are lacking the proper accents has not yet been addressed. It will as soon as someone is willing to correct this. Please make the corrections in the edt-file downloadable below so that we do not have to type all over again.

- The next update should include the EDT-files from Portugal, Eastern Europe and Belgium.

FAQ

What do these files contain?
These are EDT-files that contain numerous command lines with names of players that will appear as regens(or FREDs as they are being refered to nowadays) in a later stage of the game.

Could you give us an example of those command lines?
Why yes I can. These are five random command lines from the UK/Ireland file:
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Brody" "" "Harrigan" "14.05.1999" "England" "Leeds United"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Travis" "" "Elwine" "11.05.2005" "England" "Wolverhampton Wanderers"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Tom" "" "Dallaway" "25.08.2001" "England" "Blackburn Rovers"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Jude" "" "Prestwood" "01.06.2000" "England" "Sampdoria"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Kieran" "" "Swarbrick" "02.11.2004" "England" "Northampton Town"

What was your motivation for creating those files?
Because I like FM to be as realistic as possible I am sometimes displeased with the names of the regens appearing. As we all know certain names define certain generations. Although that depends on which country you live, because more traditional countries tend to give their children more traditional names. In Belgium the most popular names are 1/Noa(h) 2/ Thomas 3/ Lucas 4/ Milan. I have never seen the name Noah as a regen name for a Belgian player. The most frequent regens names are: Jan, Dirk, Marc, Luc,... but those are names given to children about 40-60 years ago. It's ok for a coach name or something, but it's totally unrealistic seeing these names appear for a 14 year old. And the surnames remain the same over the years of course, but the same common names are appearing too often.

How do you select the first names of the future regens? What are your selection criteria?
1. On the internet you can find many sites that give you a rundown on the top 100/200/1000 baby names of a specific country. Those are the names that were being used. Jack is the most popular baby name in the UK at the moment, so that is the most frequent name in the british EDT-file (22x). Other frequent names are Joshua, Thomas, Liam, Ethan, Matthew, ... There are also names I've used only once or twice, for example: Devlin, Marvin, Anton, Darcy, Enrico, Trent, Linus, ... I've also included some names that don't sound British at all, but only occasionaly.
2. I didn't use names like David, Robert, John, Georghe or Paul for a rather obvious reason: They already appear abundantly as a regen name, created by the game itself. However I did use names like James, Joseph or Daniel, because, despite being rather traditional names, they are still popular babynames anno 2006 and because sometimes it's better to combine a more traditional first name with a more uncommon surmane.

How do you select the surnames of the future regens?
There are numerous websites that list databases of surnames for a specific country. That's where I get the names from. I'm not specifically looking for the most uncommon names, I also use more common names like Simpson, Thompson, King, Richardson, but always in combination with a more uncommon first name.

Will these names replace all the names that are usually being created by the game?
No not at all. Only a small portion of the names listed in the EDT-files will appear in your game. Especially if you select a league as 'playable' there will still be a lot of regens in the game that are not being taken from these EDT files. To give you an idea: Of the 2000+ names in the British file only 315 were in the game after 8 years. So there are about 40 regen names being taken from a file per year. At least during my test, with Premiership and Championship selected.
I am convinced though that there must be a way to make more of these future regens appear, but I have no idea how. If someone else knows of an obscure backdoor possibility to make more of these names appear, please be kind enough to share your knowledge.

Where do I store these files?
Football Manager 2007/data/db/701/edt

I've edited the database, will this still work?
Yes, but you'll have to store these files with your edited database. By default your edited database is being stored here (at least on my pc):
My Documents/Sports interactive/Football Manager 2007/db/insert name created database

Can I store multiple files and still expect this to work?
Yes

Do these regens appear with the birthday specified in the command lines?
Not exactly. Their birthday and birth month will be the same, but for some reason upon regeneration the game chooses a random birth year for the regens. So if you specified 7.4.1995 as a birthyear, the regen may as well appear with 7.4.1990 as a birth year. I think this is a good thing though, because it makes that different regens appear first if you start a different games.

Have the names being given by the community also been added to these files?
Most of them. If you've given me names like Paul Moore or David Smith, don't expect to find them in the EDT-file, the game already creates enough of these names by itself.

Do I have to start a new game for this to take effect or is it save game compatible?
You'll have to start a new game.

Credits
Soul_linneus (original idea, researching names),
Sijnh (researching names, creating the files)
Nerazzurri (hosting the files, EDT-generator)
Goal Scorer (researching the Finnish names)
Everyone who added names on the forum, thanks a lot.


EDT-files:

UK and Ireland: download here (+ 3500 names)
Holland: downloadhere (+ 6500 names)
Nordic: download here (+5500 names from Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark) UPDATED
Argentina: downloadhere (+ 1500 names) NEW
Former USSR: downloadhere (+ 3200 names from Armenia, Belarus, Russia, Georgia, Moldova, Lithuania, Ukraine, Latvia and Estonia) NEW
France: downloadhere (+ 4300 names) NEW



It would be nice to get some user feedback. We're specifically interested in knowing how many regens appear per year, per country, in playable/non-playable leagues. Also, if you know a way to make more of these future regens appear, let us know.
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:26 PM   EDT-name-files for future regens: update 6 jan 2007 Post #2
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sorry, but almost all Lithuanian names are totaly ****. Bad grammar, russian name and lithuanian surname, i even found male name and female surname;/
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All right will delete them in a next update. Maybe someone can deliver some good names then or point out where they could be found.
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By the way, neapolis, how many names are we talking about here? Are half of the names wrong or are we talking about 10-20 names. In the latter case we could try to correct them.
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i`ll correct it.
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here you go:
http://rapidshare.com/files/10688126...formerUSSR.rar
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thx a lot !
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