retired_prttylilthang45

Don't you think the completely unrealistic switch to 424 by the AI is just a joke?

I'm having the worst teams in the league come to my ground - get completely outplayed and dominated without even a shot on goal, find themselves 2 or 3 goals down and then in the last 10 minutes switch to 424 and suddenly start playing like Brazil and launch a comeback that Lazarus would be proud of ..

Its just silly - IF they could play that well then they wouldn't be bottom of the freaking league for chrissakes ..

I have the best defence in the division - having conceded only 24 goals in 30 games .. yet due to the 424 I've had a 2-0 pulled to 2-2 in the last 10 minutes, 4 times and a 3-1 into 3-4 reverse in the last 10 minutes .. not to mention the odd goal here and there where they don't complete the comeback .. in all about 16 of the 24 I've conceded this season is due to the pathetically ridiculous 424 the AI pulls ..

Again, if they were that good and able to rip the best defence in the division to shreds when the 'choose' to - what the hell are they doing at the bottom of the division?

Sadly, if you don't notice they've switched to it in time, you'll find they've pulled a goal back before you have chance to change things ..

So .. come on - suggestions - I've tried the ultra-defensive, tried the fight fire with fire, tried the packing 5 men into the defence with counter-attack .. nothing .. they are usually as solid as a rock in this mode too ..

retired_carribean14

I used the "attacking defense" (i got even more attacking) until now - the conclusion was not conclusive (about 3 times won, 2or3 times lost and 2 times draw)

I'am also nagged about this thing happening, but i usually let the steam off before entering the forum...

retired_nabrooks

If you're playing 442.

1. Remove any forward runs from defenders and drop their mentality as low as they'll go, drop defensive line right down.

2. No forwards runs on one central midfielder (DM if you use one) and drop his mentality to around 5 (ish)

3. Other central midfielder and wingers forward runs often and attacking mentality (I use 15)

4. Direct passing, down both flanks.

If I'm winning I'll usually switch to this around the 65 min mark, and while it's by no means infallible, I've scored a lot more than I've conceeded when the AI go 424.

retired_spoon30

Try this (is what the AI does when it parks the bus).

-Swith to 4-1-4-1 without farrows.
-Global mentality: NORMAL.
-Lone striker: On high attacking mentality
-Forward runs: Rarely on everyone, except for one MC and the striker on Mixed.
-Run with ball often on wingers and striker.
-Striker (no matter his stats) on hold up ball.
-Closing down: 4 notches for DCs, 7 notches for Fullbacks and 10 to the rest.


Most of the time (4 of 5) it works really well.

retired_spoon30

Ah...BTW: yes, 4-2-4 on shitty teams...it´s a joke.

retired_prttylilthang45

lol .. just almost had the best one yet .. I'm 4-0 up at half-time away from home .. again, completely dominant as you would expect.. they swith to 424 with 70 minutes gone and I switch to what you suggest Luketa .. by the 80th minute is 4-3 .. the ONLY thing that probably stopped them levelling and no doubt winning was they got someone sent off for a 2nd bookable ..

lol .. this game cracks me up at times ..

retired_fanito

This game does become pretty rediculous at times. I would suggest searching around for the "shut up shop" tactic. It's a 4-2-4, very defensive tactic which is very effective when trying to counter the AI's 4-2-4 attacking.

retired_spoon30

Ok, the 4-2-4 is crap...I agree, but what are you talking about? The AI uses the 4-2-4 when is 1 one goal down and (only exceptionally) 2 goals but if it was supposed to win easily on the pre-match odds....but once you have 3 goals difference it turns to a defensive set-up to avoid humilliation, and if you are playing against a much better side it reverts to a 4-4-2 long farrowed the last 10 or 15 minutes. But I´ve NEVER seen the AI playing 4-2-4 when loosing 0-4 or 0-3......

retired_okonji patrick

No point playing nice, just switch to a defensive tactic, send the ball to the bleachers, & generally waste as much time as you can.

To all the "lovers of the beatiful game" that are already sharpenning their keyboards (pencils) - look at what football has become in recent years - either play to win or reconcile with the fact that you will lose to overly aggresive teams.


as a great player in my country once said - "the most beatiful goal is when the ball crosses the goalline"

retired_Richman

The whole game is unrealistic; the programmers dropped a right shitter this time. Do they not realise by making the game unrealistic people won’t buy the next release. I wish I hadn’t bought this one and stuck with champ manger 03/04 and downloaded a copy of 07 for evaluation purposes first. This re ranking ******** that people keep mentioning in the forum doesn’t exist in real life, most teams play the best 11 and generally don’t change tactics a great deal in real life, changing of tactics would be reserved for **** teams like Newcastle and Spurs for when they come up against a superior team, so why when you put your best team out in the game you get beat by a team that according to the stats couldn’t hit a barn door but with strikers with a rating of 7 they bang away all 4 shots on target into the back of the net and how can I being the mighty Boro start the season with wins over chelsea and arsenal by 3 clear goals get half way through a season and be 5 nil down to a future championship side in west ham??......anyone want to buy a copy of football manger 2007 from me the greatest champ manager of all time?