tomo_rose

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luv2swim

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...5812018213/p/3

Here are the settings Alex Ferguson used for his 4-2-4 when I put him as my assistant manager at Leeds.

retired_afaist

While I agree the 4-2-4 formation is rather silly, I can usually cope with it using a 4-2-2-2 defensive formation. Anyway, since I'm usually playing with a sweeper, I've recently tried going 1-5-1-2-1 (sw, 3xdc, dr, dl, dmc, mr, ml, fc) and it seems to work alright. My biggest problem with this game is that it doesn't seem to rely on 'real' tactics, but more on number crunching. These days it seems more like a mathematician's game. I know it does affect the game when you have tall defenders marking tall forwards compared to midgits marking giants, but still. It seems, at least to me, somewhat unrealistic that changing a slider here and there 1 or 2 steps can turn the game around completely. What I'd prefer is a lot more ways to interact with the players through personal instructions. Like telling your fast wingers to repeatedly try to get past the slow defender, or telling your forwards to either come deep or constantly try to beat the offside trap - I know this is already possible to some extent, but being able to do it only pre-match or during halftime is not enough.

What I'm trying to say is that I think personal instructions given through 'orders' throughout the game and not a small change in sliders should be a decisive factor.

retired_rachel04

put sarrows on your front 2 going out the the sides

seemed to work for me

retired_B-Scott

I have found the best way to counter a 424 is to mimic a real life scenario - get your forward line defending - try switching their mentality down below 1/2 way and set counter attack on

I generally dont use a low mentality on defenders as they are slow to build up the attack and look for safe passes rather than getting the ball to your key midfield playmaker etc

retired_A BrandNew Me

theres so much crap in there it made svens glass toilet on a dodgy curry night when the flusher aint working a perfect ice sculpture.

retired_milhouse_vh

My away tactic works very well againgst the 4-2-4. I actually relish it.

We hit them on the break often and after scoring usually see the opposition immediately changing to a defensive formation. At which point i change to my home tactic and we see the game through.

Works a treat.

Sky King

Let's hear more about your away tactic. What formation is it?

retired_pennyyoung

topic maker, the title is very right, the 424 is indeed a joke. moreso is when it is implemented.

sure i'd accept if chelsea revert to this if they are chasing the game.

but if i'm man u and am playing somebody like yeovil in the fa cup, there is no way that i'd expect them to go to a 424, even if they are down 2/3 - nil with 30/25 mins to go. there is no way that irl a manager would subject their team to the risk of further demoralizing their team and fans by going so excessively attacking and exposing the GK to a team notoriously better than them. crazy.

Sky King

It seems like there are two problems with 4-2-4.

1. AI switches to 4-2-4 way too frequently compared to real life.

2. 4-2-4 is too effective when AI switches to it.

I think both are valid claims. I'm quite puzzled as to why SI decided to make AI use 4-2-4 so often as they do, because they must be aware 4-2-4 isn't used that often in real life...