Fitness.com
Advertisement

Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager > Tactics & Training Tips

Tactics & Training Tips

It's no use having a squad full of star players without a decent way for them to play their football.


» Site Navigation
 > Shop
» Current Poll
Best 5 club teams in history of Football:
Liverpool 1977-1978 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Real Madrid 1956-1960 - 0%
0 Votes
Juventus 1985 - 0%
0 Votes
Milan 1989-1990 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1971-1973 - 0%
0 Votes
Santos 1962-1963 - 0%
0 Votes
Torinho 1940's - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1995 - 0%
0 Votes
Flamengo 1981 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Benfica 1961-1962 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Total Votes: 1
You may not vote on this poll.
» Stats
Members: 103,435
Threads: 84,999
Posts: 1,031,266
Top Poster: Karky (9,542)
Welcome to our newest member, kylemcdougal
» Fitness Shop
If you register for free, you will be able to post threads, vote on polls and lots more. If you have problems with the registration or logging in, please contact the administrator.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-24-2007, 09:18 PM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #31
Joe Blow
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_Deval is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

yep, very annoying thing, the formation itself could be applied by a manager IRL but it would be impossible to have dominance in all areas of the field and that happens when the AI switches to 424. Opposition players start running like mad (bite me if it is possible to run from one side to other few times after 80 minutes of defending, rubbish) and my players turn into impotents and total dummies who can't even tackle rubbish forwards.
retired_Deval is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2007, 10:42 PM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #32
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_kathylc2000 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Dane:
If you're playing 442.

1. Remove any forward runs from defenders and drop their mentality as low as they'll go, drop defensive line right down.

2. No forwards runs on one central midfielder (DM if you use one) and drop his mentality to around 5 (ish)

3. Other central midfielder and wingers forward runs often and attacking mentality (I use 15)

4. Direct passing, down both flanks.

If I'm winning I'll usually switch to this around the 65 min mark, and while it's by no means infallible, I've scored a lot more than I've conceeded when the AI go 424.
might aswell give it a try
retired_kathylc2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2007, 11:51 PM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #33
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_janellewood86 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Marseille07:
Millie, I think the point here is not that a good team performing poorly, but that a good team dominates the game until 70th minute then all of a sudden 4-2-4 comes in and the game is drawn.

While I admit it does happen, it definitely does not happen as often as some managers witness here.
No, and I agree with this point - the AI moves to 4-2-4 far too easily.

My issue was with the moronic poster, not with this debate. I think the move to 4-2-4 in itself isn't unrealistic, since it's an ultra-attacking 4-4-2, but to replace the wingers with strikers is just absurd.

I apologise for dragging things off topic - but not for what I said.
retired_janellewood86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 12:26 AM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #34
Joe Blow
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_Richman is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by wwfan:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Marseille07:
Millie, I think the point here is not that a good team performing poorly, but that a good team dominates the game until 70th minute then all of a sudden 4-2-4 comes in and the game is drawn.

While I admit it does happen, it definitely does not happen as often as some managers witness here.
That was the point until the thread was hijacked by an idiot with a God-complex. The 4-2-4 is annoyingly potent but there are strategies you can use to defend against it. Regard it as a border guard against ridiculous levels of user dominance and learn to love the achievement of winning games you deserve to win through tactical nous alone. It's not as if the 4-2-4 comes as a surprise. You know it's going to happen! </BLOCKQUOTE>

Totally agree how dare these people come on a forum and proclaim to be God like, denounce them at once and praise Grogsy the Messiah, thanks for the heads up wwfan, be careful of millie vanilli though he like irony and sarcasim I dont know what that is!
retired_Richman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 01:23 AM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #35
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_koolvins is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

The 4-2-4 does turn the opposite team in samba de janeiro mode. They're incredibly solid in defense, they start running around like mad, and all of their forwards become Pelé. However, you could have a midfield of Fabregas and Alonso and they'd forget how to pass the ball.

Even with all that it's counterable, you just have to tick on counter attack, pull back, "park the bus" and play both flanks, where there's more space and all the BaresiKoemanBeckenbauer defenders won't be able to intercept the ball so easily. It'd also be wise to turn time wasting to the max...
retired_koolvins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 07:39 AM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #36
Newb
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_kfollman is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Just as an aside, when I play against a Steve Coppell managed Reading, they switch to 424 after about 10 minutes, whatever the score...
retired_kfollman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 02:22 PM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #37
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_spoon30 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Zipflashly:
Just as an aside, when I play against a Steve Coppell managed Reading, they switch to 424 after about 10 minutes, whatever the score...
Yeah, I´ve experienced that, too. Quite strange... I think it might be a bug...
retired_spoon30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 04:19 PM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #38
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_fanito is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Zipflashly:
Just as an aside, when I play against a Steve Coppell managed Reading, they switch to 424 after about 10 minutes, whatever the score...
Maybe he's one of those "thinking outside the box" type of managers. He figures if 4-2-4 works so well in the last 10 minutes of the match then why not use it much earlier, like 10 minutes after the start. Might really throw off the opposition
retired_fanito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 10:07 PM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #39
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_Myoplex is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

i have a solution well this works with my tactic, i just either keep it the same or just put barrows on full backs, change team mentality to 4, passing 12 tempo 20 width 5 closing down 20 time wasting 15 d line 1 tackling normal, use playmaker, t man and CA
retired_Myoplex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 10:08 PM   424 .. what a joke .. Post #40
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_Myoplex is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

i didn't mean to send the last one without this bit (sorry for double post) against betis i went 2-0 up and they scored on ht so i left it the same and won 4-1
retired_Myoplex is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager > Tactics & Training Tips

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar threads to 424 .. what a joke ..
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Joke
Joke: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/638/jokelm8.png...
Husni Football Manager 13 12-29-2007 12:03 AM
Not a joke....
Not a joke....: I started a new game with man u. i Delcare my...
ste123 Football Manager 2 12-18-2007 06:12 PM
Got a joke for ya.
Got a joke for ya.: Whats 9 inches long and hangs from a ****? ...
Drunk Beware The Pub 13 11-24-2007 02:58 PM
JOke
JOke: I just bought Jo from CSKA Moscow for £13m for...
Number 7 Skinning Hideout 4 11-12-2007 02:25 AM
a joke that's really really bad
a joke that's really really bad: 2 dwarfs pull 2 girls & take them home, 1st dwarf...
BBB The Pub 11 10-08-2007 10:50 PM

More threads of Thunda
Thread Date Forum Replies Last Post
424 .. what a joke ..
424 .. what a joke ..: Don't you think the completely unrealistic switch...
04-23-2007 Tactics & Training Tips 108 05-19-2007 10:07 AM
Stupid goals
Stupid goals: I'm seriously getting tired of this .. Nigh...
05-03-2007 Tactics & Training Tips 18 05-05-2007 11:10 AM
Gave it another go ..
Gave it another go ..: .. but its still as disgraceful as ever .. ...
04-11-2007 Tactics & Training Tips 7 04-11-2007 12:55 PM
Ball greedy strikers
Ball greedy strikers: Really struggling to get my strikers working with...
11-08-2006 Tactics & Training Tips 11 11-09-2006 07:17 AM

Other threads in forum Tactics & Training Tips
Thread Date Thread Starter Replies Last Post
My 4-2-1-2-1
My 4-2-1-2-1: Hello guys. Just want to share my tactic. ;) ...
12-04-2007 David Beckham_7 14 12-04-2007 05:28 PM
Tutoring
Tutoring: How do I set up tutoring? I've been advised by my...
11-14-2007 Elwyn 2 11-14-2007 01:55 PM
Managing Watford.Inspired by Cleon & WWfan
Managing Watford.Inspired by Cleon & WWfan: As in the topic i am managing Watford,as inspired...
04-21-2007 Sotong 11 04-27-2007 08:38 PM
To Through balls or not to through balls?
To Through balls or not to through balls?: This is the question :D Well, I'm quite...
11-23-2006 Crystale 5 11-24-2006 02:51 PM
quick question regarding tactics
quick question regarding tactics: ive looked in the faq post and it says to put the...
11-17-2006 The T 3 11-17-2006 08:48 PM

» Online Users: 15
0 members and 15 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 2,128, 07-21-2008 at 08:27 PM.

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Fitness.com | Weight Loss | Training & Fitness | BodyBuilding | Chinese | Spanish | French | Germany | Italian | Friend Codes |
You are viewing 424 .. what a joke .. - Page 4.