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Originally posted by Grogsy:
The whole game is unrealistic; the programmers dropped a right shitter this time. Do they not realise by making the game unrealistic people won’t buy the next release. I wish I hadn’t bought this one and stuck with champ manger 03/04 and downloaded a copy of 07 for evaluation purposes first. This re ranking ******** that people keep mentioning in the forum doesn’t exist in real life, most teams play the best 11 and generally don’t change tactics a great deal in real life, changing of tactics would be reserved for **** teams like Newcastle and Spurs for when they come up against a superior team, so why when you put your best team out in the game you get beat by a team that according to the stats couldn’t hit a barn door but with strikers with a rating of 7 they bang away all 4 shots on target into the back of the net and how can I being the mighty Boro start the season with wins over chelsea and arsenal by 3 clear goals get half way through a season and be 5 nil down to a future championship side in west ham??......anyone want to buy a copy of football manger 2007 from me the greatest champ manager of all time?
Well... the sales grow up from version to version, so I don´t think that SI is worried about a bunch of moanners in a forum, when thousands of people run ro buy the game when it is released. But I think that some aspects of the game need to be majorly improved. The 4-2-4 is only a stupid simplification of how things go on in real life. Because almost every team go more attacking when the match is near to be over and they are trailing by one goal. But it doesn´t mean that they start playing like super-stars EVERY TIME. The game is pretty "robotic" in this aspect...
4-2-4 isn't so hard to beat. All you have to do is "park the bus".
Reduce team mentality to ~5, passing and tempo to direct/quick, time wasting to often, defensive line to deep, width to narrow, and finally, play down both flanks. Perhaps you'll wanna pull back one of your strikers, if you play with 2 men up front, to the AMC position. That shold beat the dreaded 4-2-4 most of the time...
AIs using 4-2-4 is already problematic though. In real life teams rarely pull two midfielders for two strikers. Because if they do, they lose control of the middle and become very prone to counterattacks. But somehow every AI team fields 4-2-4 when they are down, and 4-2-4 is definitely more effective than how real life should be.
Well... the sales grow up from version to version, so I don´t think that SI is worried about a bunch of moanners in a forum, when thousands of people run ro buy the game when it is released. But I think that some aspects of the game need to be majorly improved. The 4-2-4 is only a stupid simplification of how things go on in real life. Because almost every team go more attacking when the match is near to be over and they are trailing by one goal. But it doesn´t mean that they start playing like super-stars EVERY TIME. The game is pretty "robotic" in this aspect...
Everyone I know won’t even play this game now alot keep going back to 01/02, that is how bad this game has got for people. People like winning and as by the look of what I read on here they cant they will again revert back to an old version. I say this as the greatest of players and I don’t say it lightly SI beware the wrath of making a game that is this ridiculous again.
Originally posted by Grogsy:
The whole game is unrealistic; the programmers dropped a right shitter this time. Do they not realise by making the game unrealistic people won’t buy the next release. I wish I hadn’t bought this one and stuck with champ manger 03/04 and downloaded a copy of 07 for evaluation purposes first. This re ranking ******** that people keep mentioning in the forum doesn’t exist in real life, most teams play the best 11 and generally don’t change tactics a great deal in real life, changing of tactics would be reserved for **** teams like Newcastle and Spurs for when they come up against a superior team, so why when you put your best team out in the game you get beat by a team that according to the stats couldn’t hit a barn door but with strikers with a rating of 7 they bang away all 4 shots on target into the back of the net and how can I being the mighty Boro start the season with wins over chelsea and arsenal by 3 clear goals get half way through a season and be 5 nil down to a future championship side in west ham??......anyone want to buy a copy of football manger 2007 from me the greatest champ manager of all time?
There's a hell of a lot of crap being spewed there.
Its not the fact they go to 424 that bothers me that much - its just how effective it is. As I said in an earlier post - if its so effective that it changes a crap and totally dominated team into bunch of world-beaters, why not play like that from the start?
Yeah, its unrealistic and sadly we have to come up with something to try and counter it, it just gnaws at me that all your good work in a match can come undone because of a piece of crap like that ..
Luketa - I guess you must be lucky if they only go to the 424 if AI is only a goal down .. admittedly, it doesn't happen often - sometimes not even when I'm only a goal ahead, but I'm getting it often when numerous goals ahead - might have something to do with the division I'm playing in? L2 at the moment ..
My last nine games have been :
1-0 (no 424)
0-0 (no 424)
1-0 (no 424)
2-0 (went to 424 with 2 minutes left)
3-2 (went to 424 when I was 3-0 up in the last 15)
1-0 (no 424)
1-0 (no 424)
2-2 (went to 424 when I was 2-0 up in the last 10)
4-3 (went to 424 on 60 minutes when I was 4-0 up)
lol .. so the only time I've conceded in that run was when it went to 424 .. 4 times and it scored 7 goals .. I scored 0 in return ..
Incidently, I'd love to know all the settings in regards to the 424 and then set my team up with the same settings and run a season with it .. see how it goes .. .. so if anyone knows or knows how I can find out ..
When will SI learn that the most difficult thing in fooball is scoring goals, even if watford played 4-2-4 every week the still would never score, FM 2008 needs to be based on creating a good solid tactic with goalscores in the team its the only way to success in real life
.. so if anyone knows or knows how I can find out ..
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