424 .. what a joke ..

retired_Andrea · 05-11-2007, 05:18 PM

I don't know if its just my tactics, but I've NEVER experienced troubles with 4-2-4.

retired_Damonica · 05-11-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by andysafc:
In real life would it not be more likely for a team chasing a lead to, in FM terms, increase the mentality slider rather than change to 4-2-4 anyway?
Imo 4-2-4 should only be used rarely as it is extremely risky and vaulnrable and would be more likely to concede as much as score.
With the right tactics it is possible to counter the 4-2-4 but i still think it's over used and should only be occasionally successful.

yeah but increased mentality= all out attack correct?

think of a 424 as a 442 with farrows on the wingers. they just never track back coz they're desperate and try to attack nonstop.

so it's not really a formation from mars or from brazil in the 50s or anything.

retired_janellewood86 · 05-11-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by zeusbheld:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by andysafc:
In real life would it not be more likely for a team chasing a lead to, in FM terms, increase the mentality slider rather than change to 4-2-4 anyway?
Imo 4-2-4 should only be used rarely as it is extremely risky and vaulnrable and would be more likely to concede as much as score.
With the right tactics it is possible to counter the 4-2-4 but i still think it's over used and should only be occasionally successful.

yeah but increased mentality= all out attack correct?

think of a 424 as a 442 with farrows on the wingers. they just never track back coz they're desperate and try to attack nonstop.

so it's not really a formation from mars or from brazil in the 50s or anything. </BLOCKQUOTE>
:thup: At least one person agrees with me. I've always maintained the only unrealistic thing about it is that they bring on FCs to play FL and FR if they've got any subs left. Uncool...

retired_lzeldin · 05-11-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by davidbowie:
I just had a game where:

Supergoalies: Their keeper saved 9 shots on target, including one double save where he jumped one direction, then saved the rebound on the other direction, rated 8.

Injury excess: Had 2 players injured.

Red/Yellow card excess: Player sent off.

Sudden ability loss in middle of game: Had my striker make 5 shots on target but unable to put any in the net.

We made 15 shots to 5, despite having a player sent off, and only drew 1-1.

I feel your pain. But then, you did get draw at least !

When it's match like that, it's like trying to put a sports bet on WWF match... :p

If AI decides it's your time to lose, it goes thru all it has.

beccalennon80 · 05-14-2007, 07:10 PM

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...7/m/7642040913 look here and you won't have any problems with 4-2-4

JeffRogers · 05-15-2007, 10:39 PM

i must agree with the MAJORITY here!

the 4-2-4 is an abomination! totally ruins the game imo. the success rate is unbelievable whether its a league 2 team against your top 6 side in the cup or a team on a 'not won in 12' streak! you know that that streak is about to come to an end when they come to play you! it seems inevitable!

ive heard people come on saying its not a problem to their tactics but yet they never seem to want to prove it, except for 1 or 2 who have and within a couple of posts someones tried it and posted back that it didnt work?!

i'm sure people do have the answer though (it must be possible) even if it is unwittingly! being that everyones answer is different! you may have the answer but do you know what it is???

its just UNREAL no-end!

P.S. for everyone else not blessed with the answer try just simply changing your team tackling to hard when they make the change to the 4-2-4!

its not a fixall but it helps!

retired_jemar1959 · 05-16-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by thebigman1985:
put sarrows on your front 2 going out the the sides

seemed to work for me

Works every time, take off the fwd runs of your wide midfielders as well, counter attack and direct passing focused down the wings = no fear of 424

retired_lzeldin · 05-19-2007, 10:04 AM

I am now halfway of season with Chelsea, playing attacking 4-5-1 and have *never* encountered AI 4-2-4. Not once, be it league or cup.

retired_lzeldin · 05-19-2007, 10:07 AM

I have been playing same tactic with screenshots in my previous post, players do vary due to injuries but tactics don't, home or away. Not single game with AI 4-2-4. When I play Liverpool with 4-4-2, I get lot of AI 4-2-4. Others having similar experiences ?

424 .. what a joke ..

It's no use having a squad full of star players without a decent way for them to play their football.

424 .. what a joke ..