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Old 05-12-2007, 03:34 PM   Creating a tactic: Mathematical Sliders approach/theory looking for feedback - it's all about the individual! Post #21
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this is how i think, I'll try it with wor toon! looking promising, like I said this is how I think but wouldn't know what attributes to use! I need to learn how to do presets aswell! I think everyone should use them!

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Do you play CA in the away frameworks?

Also you seem to have no tactical restrictions except for DC's not doing fwd runs, I would add DL/R and maybe MCd/DM to those restrictions when using a poorer team, since a solid defence probably is the best way to win... just my 2 cents
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Old 05-12-2007, 07:17 PM   Creating a tactic: Mathematical Sliders approach/theory looking for feedback - it's all about the individual! Post #23
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Good work.

Could it be possible to divide the stats with ten for lower league teams?
Only just a thought.

Since most of the players there have stats below ten.

Going to try out your ideas tonight in my game with Everton.
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Old 05-12-2007, 07:27 PM   Creating a tactic: Mathematical Sliders approach/theory looking for feedback - it's all about the individual! Post #24
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Creative Freedom – Rooney Attributes - Creativity (16) + Decisions (14) + Anticipation (16) + Passing (15) + Composure (14)= Total of 75, Divide it by 5 (number of attributes included) = Creative freedom of 15
Sorry. Was not thinking.I meant dividing by half of what you have worked out for good teams.

Like:Creativity (7) + Decisions (4) + Anticipation (9) + Passing (8) + Composure (10)= Total of 38, Divide it by 2,5 = Creative freedom of 15

I'm not sure if this is working, but it would be very interesting to find out if you could implement this for lower teams.

Sorry for double post, I am going to start thinking from now on
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:40 PM   Creating a tactic: Mathematical Sliders approach/theory looking for feedback - it's all about the individual! Post #25
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Like:Creativity (7) + Decisions (4) + Anticipation (9) + Passing (8) + Composure (10)= Total of 38, Divide it by 2,5 = Creative freedom of 15
i am not sure if that is such a good idea. instead why not try: for example
Creativity (7) + Decisions (4) + Anticipation (9) + Passing (8) + Composure (10)= (38/5)*(P.A/C.A)

ok i am not trying this or anything but i was just reading the thread so just got this idea. So if a player is close to his P.A. PA/CA doesnt matter(ratio close to 1) but it can help players below their PA(ratio > 1; dont ask how, just an idea)
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:15 PM   Creating a tactic: Mathematical Sliders approach/theory looking for feedback - it's all about the individual! Post #26
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January 1st Update
I don't really have too much to add here, as planned I am hardly changing anything other than which version of the tactic I use based on odds/scout reports - other players are only coming in when I have an injury. So here are my results to the midpoint of the season.

PRM - Watford 4 v Blackburn 3 Match Stats
PRM - West Ham 0 v Watford 1 Match Stats
PRM - Watford 0 v Reading 0 Match Stats
PRM - Portsmouth 2 v Watford 0 Match Stats
PRM - Watford 0 v Fulham 0 Match Stats
PRM - Tottenham 0 v Watford 1 Match Stats
PRM - Watford 1 v Liverpool 1 Match Stats
PRM - Man Utd 2 v Watford 0 Match Stats
PRM - Watford 2 v Bolton 2 Match Stats
PRM - Watford 2 v Aston Villa 3 Match Stats

Current League Table:


My season is still going pretty well despite a few self destructive performances that are impossible to plan a counter to, such as the 2 own goals against Aston Villa in the last 5 minutes which cost me the win, and then the match.

My aim for a top 8 finish is still on at the midpoint, which is nice. I am still usually having more possesion than opponents, but even though I am still creating lots of chances and shots on goal, I am surviving almost wholely from Eddie Johnson's goals. If he got injured, to be honest, I can't see my team scoring 1 goal a game even at the moment.

About the questions of including CA/PA in the calculating stages. This is something that could be taken into consideration of course, but the reason I haven't used it is simply because I don't use external tools that could tell me my players ability exactly. I get my information from my assistant/viewing attributes. To be honest, even if I we're to consider player ability, I'm not sure I would use PA at all, as it isn't a measure of the players standard - just how good he could potentially become (which isn't much use to me playing with a small team where results are hard to come by - I could probably get away with playing potential stars in larger teams due to side quality being considerably higher.

Thanks for posting some new formula ideas! I'm glad the idea is interesting people enough to discuss how it could be improved - this was my main goal for the thread - as I was already pretty confident that my method was working to a reasonable degree with my teams. I shall have a look at these when I have finished this season and got all the performances/stats uploaded for people to see
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:50 PM   Creating a tactic: Mathematical Sliders approach/theory looking for feedback - it's all about the individual! Post #27
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am not sure if that is such a good idea. instead why not try: for example
Creativity (7) + Decisions (4) + Anticipation (9) + Passing (8) + Composure (10)= (38/5)*(P.A/C.A)

ok i am not trying this or anything but i was just reading the thread so just got this idea. So if a player is close to his P.A. PA/CA doesnt matter(ratio close to 1) but it can help players below their PA(ratio > 1; dont ask how, just an idea)
Probably a better idea. I had a quick think, but realized afterwards that it wasn't well thought through.
I think paulsgruff is up to something good, and as I prefer to manage lower league teams it would be nice to find a good way to set up their players instuctions.

KUTGW Paulsgruff.
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:26 AM   Creating a tactic: Mathematical Sliders approach/theory looking for feedback - it's all about the individual! Post #28
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Nice Thread....

How you set the teams isntructions??? Like Team Mentality, Tempo, and all that stuff???

Thanks a lot
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Great idea :thup:

And i think you would have even more success if you had a shut out type tactic to employ nearer the end of games.
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since i started using your method paulsgruff i have played 8 won 5 drawn 2 lost 1

charlton 2-1
west brom 3-0
norwich 1-1
portsmouth 0-1 man sent off
west ham 2-0
man city 2-0
wigan 0-0
liverpool 1-0
i am playing with derby in the prem, keep up the good work
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