retired_roze

I have been looking at tons of threads, many very good of the old foxes of the forum, on tactics. It is always bend towards what each of the sliders/instructions can do. But I would like to know if any of the more in-depth experts of the FM can give me (and others) some thaughtful insight into what happens if you do TO much of some sliders/instructions.

What if you apply always crossing on all of your players? What will be the down side of that? We all want to score and through crossings is one way so why not cross all the time? Same with throughball. We want to have those opening passes all the time so we get scoring opportunities. So why not put all the players on TTB always? Same for most other sliders.

Appreciate if Cleon, Millie and all the other can give some good ideas on this.

retired_ryleybug01

some interesting thoughts there... Cant answer myself but looking forward to some responses on this.

barefootboo

Basicly you will lose possession easily.

Consider your centre half with crossings of 6, he would probably not be able to hit your strikers very often with that ~40 yard cross.

Same with through balls, though effective at exploiting soft spots in the defence they are easier to intercept than normal passes, since they move through one or more lines of defence, and should therefore be moderated. Though in a slow control style game high through balls all over is viable to give tempo boosts.


Run with ball, well your centre half gets the ball and the opposition striker closes him down, instead of passing the ball he tries to dribble the striker. The win/loss ratio might not be very much higher than for your wingers (since fullbacks are better defensively than strikers normally) but the gain/loss of a completed/failed attempt is far worse.

That's the way I see it at least

retired_kellyk

Crossing

In this game, if you want to make things easy for yourself, you need players to cross the ball often. The way you set it up is very important and the players you choose determine how effective or potentially self destructive it can be.

Lets look at the players. If you want to play a game where you don't want overcommittment from your fullbacks, it would be wise to set them to cross from DEEP. Don't ask them to cross from bye. Leave that to the wingers or the strikers. When you choose crossing instructions for you fullbacks, bear in mind that if their attributes are poor you will lose possession and this could turn into a ping pong game. If you find that your crossing percentages are really unacceptable then remove crossing as an instruction and leave that to the wingers who can also cross from deep or from bye.

When crossing you want to kinds of crosses, the ones from deep are dangerous as they are the ones you will use most often for quick counters. The ones from bye, with the right TM can yield goals.

Througballs These are important if you want to play an attacking game, but use of it depends on your team. If your team has good Off the ball running, passing, decisions and stamina. Then having TTB on a few players can do quite a lot. But if your players are poor - average then you will give up possession. Look at possession as your benchmark and pass completition. If you find that players in certain areas of the pitch are having low passing% then reduce TTB accordingly. Use this wisely. It is a double edged sword. Deadly but potentially suicidal if applied wrongly, especially against a vastly superior opponent.

retired_mgavlick

In my 'Control' and 'Attacking' tactics I have every outfield player on Try Through Balls often. I won every one of my home games last season. I do have an excellent squad but think it would work at any level if you are playing very defensive teams.

Sky King

Although I'm not the poster, I appreciate your tips. Some things that I'd like to experiment with.

retired_roze

If anyone can come up with some experiments (I am not able at the moment) it would be greater. I e.g. discovered the great importance of having crossing always on for the strikers by reading Cleon's posts. I would never have thought that as I have thought that if you put to much on someone that does not have the role traditionally you get negative effects. What negative effects I never understood.

Sky King

It's not hard to do some experiments, but it's hard to find some things to test with, which are worth the effort.

Changing a slider by one notch isn't really worth it.