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Old 01-12-2006, 03:17 PM   A question on scouting ethics Post #1
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Im not much of a LLM, so forgive me if im missing th point...

As a LLM, the scouts you hire are invariably poor. I get around this by looking at the actual player stats rather than the scouts recommendations.

But thinking about this its not very realistic is it? As a manager you would be able to see some players for yourself, but not all of them.

So the question is as a LLM should you go exclusively on scout reports and not stats? Or would this make an already push semi-impossible way of playing over the edge? Or lastly, does everyone else do this and am I "cheating"?
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:19 PM   A question on scouting ethics Post #2
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Or would this make an already push semi-impossible way of playing over the edge?

Obviously should be...

Or would this push an already semi-impossible way of playing over the edge?
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:32 PM   A question on scouting ethics Post #3
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when you're playing against another team in the league, and a guy scores three goals against you, that's a good reason to send out a scout to assess him in detail. So that definitely counts as "seeing games yourself". Buying a player just by seeing him once isn't enough, I think, since everyone can have a good day.
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:32 PM   A question on scouting ethics Post #4
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Since the scout reports the game give you are so vague, I don't see any problem with looking at the stats to fill in the info you would ask for IRL.

On the other hand I don't pay too much attention to the numbers beyond "he's quick", "he's good in the air" etc.
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If I went exclusively on scout reports I'd never know which of the players he recommends to sign.

Scout recommends players, I look at the recommendation, then the numbers and decide whether to sign them.
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Am I right in thinking that looking at the top scorer/assists charts for the division you are in (and maybe the division below) would be ok? And then scouting individual players based on where they stand in those charts. This sort of stuff is published in newspapers on a regular basis so it's reasonable (imo) to assume that this sort of stuff is looked at be real life managers.
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I think that's covered under "scouting players you hear about in the media", jptykes, and is therefore acceptable.
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I'd agree with that.
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Old 01-12-2006, 05:38 PM   A question on scouting ethics Post #9
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I view it as a combination of three things. First the scouts finds a player and says he is the dog b0llocks. I then have a look at his stats and attributes and make my own mind up. Once I get round to offering a contract I then have a look at what the ass man has to say. If the Ass man says he will be a fringe player or worse I will definitely go back and have a look just to make sure I still think he is a good buy, but the buck stops with me if I think he is a good buy I will get him.
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Im not much of a LLM, so forgive me if im missing th point...

As a LLM, the scouts you hire are invariably poor. I get around this by looking at the actual player stats rather than the scouts recommendations.

But thinking about this its not very realistic is it? As a manager you would be able to see some players for yourself, but not all of them.

So the question is as a LLM should you go exclusively on scout reports and not stats? Or would this make an already push semi-impossible way of playing over the edge? Or lastly, does everyone else do this and am I "cheating"?
There's a couple things to realize about acquiring players. First, the stats you can see are not the entire picture. There are several important stats for each player that are simply never displayed. Every LLaMa has stories of "crap stats, great performer" players, and sometimes even "great stats, crap performers." Although the latter is rare, as we can't often get players with good stats.

Scouts can help with this. They literally see things you don't in the game. So just like real-life, trust them a bit. I try to look at scouting reccomendations, past performance, and player stats for prospective acquisitions. And usually in that order. It just seems the most realistic way to me.

Oh, and remember to stay away from Player Search!

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Am I right in thinking that looking at the top scorer/assists charts for the division you are in (and maybe the division below) would be ok? And then scouting individual players based on where they stand in those charts. This sort of stuff is published in newspapers on a regular basis so it's reasonable (imo) to assume that this sort of stuff is looked at be real life managers.
Since the LLM style is all about "realism," this would seem to fit nicely. I've done it regularly myself, however I often have trouble luring top performers to switch to my team.
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