A question on scouting ethics

TC · 01-13-2006, 01:49 AM

Thanks

Although I think this is going to really test the limits of my GCSE Spanish

elgreco · 01-13-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by Kallinan:

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Am I right in thinking that looking at the top scorer/assists charts for the division you are in (and maybe the division below) would be ok? And then scouting individual players based on where they stand in those charts. This sort of stuff is published in newspapers on a regular basis so it's reasonable (imo) to assume that this sort of stuff is looked at be real life managers.

Since the LLM style is all about "realism," this would seem to fit nicely. I've done it regularly myself, however I often have trouble luring top performers to switch to my team.

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Well, this charts are like Eve and the apple. Personally, I take a glance on the 'top scorers' table, as I think that this table is easy to find in real life.

However, I consider that looking into the 'Average form' table is a way to cheat as this information is vely unlikely to exist in real life for lower leagues. This table give you simply the best players of the division and my opinion is that, this knowledge should be acquired only by experiencing the league you play into.

So my opinion is that this issue should be clarified into LLM rules (which charts are banned and which are not).

donald · 01-13-2006, 10:38 AM

Frankly there is a limit to how much we should clarify stuff. Remember that even within this forum there is great differences to how we play. Also, the rules are the bold stuff on top of the forum. The rest is guidelines.

As long as you follow the rules you are ok. The guidelines are for your personal choosing. However, most of us, including me, choose to play using most of the guidelines and some even a bit further. That's by choice though.

Bes example of the above is myself. I find both SWYCT and SYB ridiculous in the lowest leagues. There's no way in hell a kid from london would make the move up north to play for East Stirling just to earn 50 quid a week.

Contrary to popular belief the purpose of the guidelines are not as a tool with which to flame newbies. It's a common pitfall to do just that and I've been known to do it myself.

In the words of Johnny Depp: "It's more of a guideline than an actual rule."

Bogdan · 01-13-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by elgreco:

However, I consider that looking into the 'Average form' table is a way to cheat as this information is vely unlikely to exist in real life for lower leagues. This table give you simply the best players of the division and my opinion is that, this knowledge should be acquired only by experiencing the league you play into.

So my opinion is that this issue should be clarified into LLM rules (which charts are banned and which are not).

I think you are wrong. Romania's top sports paper, Gazeta Sporturilor, gives ratings to players in every match. At the end of the season, or maybe when they are reffering to one player in particular, they write about the average ratings that the player (or players) got leading to the publication of the paper. I'm sure that other publications around the world like L'Equipe or Gazzetta dello Sport do that too. I'm not saying that one should use "Average form" in his LLM game, I'm just sayng that such tables are available.