retired_tye1234

SI FFS! I thought this was going to be fixed in 6.0.2!!!

retired_chelaxix

but didnt he ask them to offer 3 million and because they think he is so good west brom might have thought the money was worth it.

retired_tye1234

I believe the problem is that the top teams are seeing a player get great stats in the lower divisions and are bidding according to that. Scoring 20 goals a season in the conference south is not like scoring 20 a season in the Premiership. If you look at the players that these guys buy they all end up sitting in the reserves never playing for the team. And the 3 million you get for transferring the player is ridiculously high. If the players was worth 45,000 the very most he should be sold for is 200,000.

retired_tye1234

And there is still a bug where a player is valued at 10K, you transfer list him and get no interest, Change is price to 100K and everyone you start getting 100K bids flooding in.

retired_lolipop_01

see now, i believe that if a player has the stats to play in a higher league a club will come in and pay that players value, im with workington and for 3 seasons have had top facilities plus youth academy. This means im getting some very good youngsters through which league teams wish to buy. I had a 17 year old who came through with great technical and mental stats and was easily even aged just 17 capable of playing in the fizzy pop league, in the end a premiership side came in and given his ability i accepted a 1.5 mill bid. He now aged 20 has played 55 times in 3 seasons scoring 18 goals thus proving the point that he had the skills to do so.
There will always be people who disagree with doing this but strictly speaking the minute any LLM gets any player with the remotest ability above their level they should automatically free transfer him as its realistic, they should also never sign decent staff, never sign players a year from retirement from premiership clubs, never & never try and improve your ground or facilities, at least until your side gets to a level that it is realistic to do so. However the majority of LLMs do some, if not all of these; thus creating a degree of unrealisticness in their game, otherwise it would be all to easy to play 100 seasons and still be struggling at the foot of league 1.
My personal opinion is that from what i have seen there are many to quick to judge here, they forget transfers of players for more than reasonable moneyit happens in real life when a player is good enough, deal with it. Also when you play a 100% truly realistic game, then be detrimental to those who use, at times, not entirely unrealistic methods to gain progress

retired_jsammut

Another idiot who doesn't read the FECKING HEADER...

retired_dvrsecuritylab

So, what you're saying is that real-life clubs automatically free transfer any player they get who looks half-decent?

Because of course, every LL club goes out of their way to only sign rubbish staff...

Again, because rl clubs never do this, do they?

I'm completely missing your point here. What are you trying to say? That to be true to LLM we should deliberately do our best to remain rubbish no matter what?

If you're being sarcastic it's a very poor attempt.

retired_lolipop_01

my point was that it is only in very rare circumstances that the clubs we start out with manage to attain some of the players we do through youth systems / transfers etc as usually they would be snapped up by bigger clubs, a person wanting to stay 100% true would place limitations on themselves on who they could sign etc until reaching a higher point in the game and raising that somewhat. ie when a promotion has been achieved etc.
The all round point was though, that it is no more unrealistic to sell a player for 700k to a league side than it is to get your board to improve your facilities a couple of times and ending up with "top facilities with youth system" while still in the conference" or ending up with Denilson aged 33 playing for your Hinkley side. Its all a detriment to the realism, it just seems that there are certain members who are quick to deride others for doing one thing because "it lacks realism" but then go out and do something that equally detracts from the realism of their game (ie signing *A Player* as your goalkeeper coach while in the conference as he has a 20 for it and is reasonably cheap wagewise at first) when realistically irl hed stay on at everton and learn the coaching trade there like many before him have.

retired_dvrsecuritylab

I think it's just a matter of using your head and deciding what is realistic. There are many debates on here about such things and if such and such a restriction is unreasonable then the concensus decides as such and it becomes acceptable and vice versa. The 'derision' you talk about usually occurs when the poster suggests something which is a 'no-brainer' or which has already been debated and set down in the guidelines.

You've used some extremes as examples, which isn't perhaps the best idea to get your point across. To illustrate; all my best players are youngsters who I signed for nothing or who came up through my 'poor' youth facilities (I seriously doubt that any club at or below conference level will have 'top facilities' - if the game does allow this, then I agree that's a little unrealistic). Some great coaches started their careers at small clubs. And many formerly great players finish their careers at tiny clubs (usually their 'home' clubs).

To get back to the original point - in real life, it is unlikely that a big team will pay millions (or even hundreds of thousands) to a small club in a lump sum, but are more likely to spread payment out over a number of seasons, and it is even more likely that the youngster will be spotted and 'signed' long before the minimum age of players in the game. However, this is a game and the frequency of decent players cropping up is probably greater than real life, so we have to define a 'procedure' for dealing with it.

Compromises, therefore, have to be made and this is why discussions like this exist.

Oh and please don't name players.

retired_lolipop_01

sorry, as i wasnt tipping etc and just using examples then it mite be fine, apologies if its not the case.
I agree with what you say as regards it being easier to obtain good youngsters etc, which is why personally if a player is worth that price and its offered then sell him. Obviously if the player is god awful and you get offered big money just because hes played semi-decent in a couple of games then i would refuse the bid as it is unrealistic. I must admit i try to keep my games as a llm fairly realistic but i also use my commeon sense when setting the perameters of realism.

Also you may be interested to know on the facilities front, as Workington i started out with basic facilities. Upon starting season 2 i asked the board to upgrade them as in my opening season i had finished 3rd and missed out on promotion via the playoffs, they accepted and shortly after i had "decent facilities" As an experiament, due to the fact that despite having a stron team for the division i was still struggling to make a significant impact after 3 seasons in the conference (12th, 17th and 13th overall in the 3 seasons) i decided over the close season of last season to chance my arm and ask again, much to my amazment my board of a mid-table conference side agreed they needed further improvement and upon the removal of 354k from my bank i was greeted with "top facilities plus youth academy."