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Old 12-30-2007, 06:23 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #21
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This goes back to the number of chances that FM allows in the match engine, so players HAVE to miss chances or there would be too many goals.

I don't think there is an attribue problem here,but a match engine one.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:24 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #22
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Just because you're playing against lower clubs doesn't mean things like composure and technique shouldn't matter as much. Though there is a problem with the match engine at the moment, which means far too many one-on-one chances are actually missed.

I think your expectations are a little unrealistic though, if you're expecting them to score nearly every time.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:24 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #23
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Originally posted by Y2C:
and also asked what exactly would finishing with a 20 attribute means?hes world class at it but still cant score.

Its just pointless and puzzling
This has been answered mate, several times
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:32 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #24
 
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No, it's not pointless.

It's far from pointless. Because someone is the best, it doesn't mean they are perfect. 20 means they are among the best at that particular skill. NOT perfect.

Why should 20 be tantamount to perfect?

You seem to be the only person who fails to grasp this rather simple concept.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:40 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #25
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No, it's not pointless.

It's far from pointless. Because someone is the best, it doesn't mean they are perfect. 20 means they are among the best at that particular skill. NOT perfect.

Why should 20 be tantamount to perfect?

You seem to be the only person who fails to grasp this rather simple concept.
Spot on. 20 = the best around where the conditions are right. That rarely happens in a game scenario, and so they're the best around anyway, but conditions dilute the effectiveness of their attributes at that point in time.
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:37 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #26
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Y2C, answer me this: What should happen when a striker with 20 for finishing comes up against a goalie with 20 for shot stopping (one-on-ones, reflexes etc)?

The strikers cant ever miss and the goalie cant ever conceed according to you, isnt that right?
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:04 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #27
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The first thing to remember is that the scale "1-20" is pretty arbitrary: a player with "Pace" of 20 is obviously not 20 times faster than a player with a "Pace" of 1.

As MV has already told you, "20" does not equal "100%".

However, "20" does mean "Has a slightly better chance of succeeding than '19', and has a significantly better chance of succeeding than '1'."

As MV has already told you, other factors play into each item. "Decisions" tends to be very important - your player has to decide to take the best option available to him. "Technique" tends to be very important - your player has to be able to execute what he's trying to do.

For these reasons, I don't pick my highest Penalty Kick taker for my pk's, my highest Free Kick taker for my fk's, or my highest Influence player for my captain.

Instead, for PK's I look at Penalties, Composure, Technique, and Finishing, altogether.

For FK's, assuming you want somebody who can strike 25-yarders with aplomb, I look for Free Kicks, Long Shots, and Technique.

Alternately, you might want a distributor of the ball: Free Kicks, Creativity, Passing, Decisions might deliver you more goals by placing it to his teammates than simply striking it on goal all the time.

For Captain, its not just Influence, but also experience, time with club, language, Teamwork, Composure, Work Rate, and Determination.

Finally, look to see what PPM's players have - those often help (or hurt) depending on what you're trying to get done.

Finally, RTFM:
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Free Kicks: This reflects how good at taking free kicks the player is. It applies to both direct shots at goal and deliveries into dangerous areas from wider or deeper positions. A player who is proficient in taking free kicks can be a valuable commodity - scoring five free kicks a season and adding five more assists from them can be a huge bonus.
Even the manual tells you not to expect perfection!

(Neither does "1" equal "0%" - I've seen players with Finishing of 1 score, and players with Long Shots of 4 score from outside the box - you have to remember, they're all professionals, so they have some minimum skill in every aspect of the game.)
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:30 PM   Why high attributes when they cant do it perfect? Post #28
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useless post, i fail to understand why people complain about the smallest things, so you will be satisfied if SI reduces the Free Kick attribute for every single player to 19? then again, that will be the highest attribute, and we will get more people complaining about why a 19 doesnt mean consistent goals.

20 = you are reliable at it, not perfect
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