Fitness.com
Advertisement

Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager > Tactics & Training Tips

Tactics & Training Tips

It's no use having a squad full of star players without a decent way for them to play their football.


» Current Poll
Best 5 club teams in history of Football:
Liverpool 1977-1978 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Real Madrid 1956-1960 - 0%
0 Votes
Juventus 1985 - 0%
0 Votes
Milan 1989-1990 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1971-1973 - 0%
0 Votes
Santos 1962-1963 - 0%
0 Votes
Torinho 1940's - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1995 - 0%
0 Votes
Flamengo 1981 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Benfica 1961-1962 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Total Votes: 1
You may not vote on this poll.
» Stats
Members: 103,267
Threads: 85,028
Posts: 1,031,334
Top Poster: Karky (9,539)
Welcome to our newest member, ankkargrau
If you register for free, you will be able to post threads, vote on polls and lots more. If you have problems with the registration or logging in, please contact the administrator.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-29-2007, 11:04 PM   Experimental RoO/RoT Reversal Method - Balanced Extremely Attacking Formations Post #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_venomm is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Experimental RoO/RoT Reversal Method - Balanced Extremely Attacking Formations

I have followed the ideas of the RoO and RoT mentality settings for a long time and have nearly always included them in the tactics I have made for my teams. I think it is a fantastic theory that works for a vast majority of people. However, I have recently started to struggle a bit in a couple of my saves with the standard RoO and RoT approaches, and so have adjusted them slightly, and experienced a surprising amount of success. I will start off by showing the mentality settings I have been using for those that just want the information right away and not wanting to look through the post to find it. I will then go about explaining my reasons afterwards for people that don't understand the logic behind it who do want some background information.
Note: I am assuming you have a basic understanding of appropriate team/player instructions, a tactic based around this method with everything else left on default will obviously not be as effective as setting up the rest of your instructions based on your teams strengths.

MENTALITY SETTINGS
This is based on there being 7 physical lines across the pitch where players can be positioned, as seen in the screenshot below if you do not understand what I mean. So for example a DL would be found on the D line, a WB would be found on the DM line etc and the numbers will relate accordingly. It is also assuming that 11 is the middle point of the sliders, right on the centre line – if this is not the case and it is 10 and I miscounted, my apologies, just adjust the figures accordingly.

Super Defensive RoO – GK1, SW2, D3, DM4, M5, AM6, F7
Defensive RoT - GK1, SW3, D5, DM7, M9, AM11, F13
Normal – GK11, SW11, D11, DM11, M11, AM11, F11
Attacking RoO - GK17, SW16, D15, DM14, M13, AM12, F11
Super Attacking RoT - GK20, SW20, D19, DM17, M15, AM13, F11

From these figures you can go about creating any formation and know what the setting for each line on the pitch would be.

THEORY

The Problem I Was Experiencing
Defensively, I have always found the RoO/RoT approaches to work extremely well. After a while though, my attacking variations became far less effective than I would want. I was experiencing far less support for the strikers than I felt they needed in an effective attacking formation. I was vary rarely crowding the opposition well back into their own half, so I went about thinking how I could alter this.

My Proposed Solution
I admit, I may be getting in a little over my head when I suggest changing a tried and tested method. However I believe I have found a way to create extremely attacking formations within the original systems boundaries to go with the successful defensive approaches that I have found work extremely well already with the RoO/RoT. It is an extremely simple idea – having two central figures in mentality (Goalkeeper and Stiker) and reversing RoO/RoT mentalities around them. Allow me to explain.



When looking at the above screenshot of possible lines on the field, obviously a striker is the furthest man forward, goalkeeper the furthest man back.

CREATING DEFENSIVE MENTALITIES
This is pretty standard RoO/RoT stuff. You want your back line extremely defensive and your forward players more attacking so you can hit opponents on the break. Therefore the goalkeeper is the man that the RoO/RoT starts with, as he is the most defensive. I find these work better utilizing the counter attack option.

CREATING ATTACKING MENTALITIES
This is total reversal on the RoO/RoT idea. The problem I was having was getting enough men forward to really push my opponents back when I go on the attack to get a lot of shots in and a lot of chances. So, instead of starting the RoO from the goalkeeper, like in the defensive formations, I start it from the striker, as he is already the player in the most attacking position on the pitch. He can have the default mentality as he won't need encouragement to play attacking football based on where he plays anyway, often finding himself with chances to shoot.. With the defenders getting a maximum attacking rating, you will find that your entire defensive line pushes forward and helps out as often as possible in attack. Your midfield will constantly be around the edge of the area to hit long range shots or pushing forward giving you greater numbers in the box for crosses. You often find yourself with upwards of 8 men in the opponents half pressurising, rather than having players breaking away on their own and not having enough support.

THE STANDARD MENTALITY
I have selected that all players play on 11 for this as a mentality for a normal approach. I have often found works rather well when your opponents don't play in a particular style according to the scout report. This may need a bit of extra work with other player instructions to create the desired effect but provides a very basic, standard team mentality.

Quick Conclusion
The main problem with the attacking mentalities are obviously about the lack of cover in defence should the opponents steal the ball and break, so be sensible about when you use the super attacking version. I would be very interested to see how this style works out for other players. I have certainly found that super attacking is great when you desperately need a goal to equalise late in a game or other similar situations and would be interested to see how other people find it.
retired_venomm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager > Tactics & Training Tips

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar threads to Experimental RoO/RoT Reversal Method - Balanced Extremely Attacking Formations
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4-4-2 Balanced tactic!
4-4-2 Balanced tactic!: I've created a balanced 4-4-2 tactic. It is...
The Dandy Dons Tactics & Training Tips 1 12-19-2007 05:26 PM
Different Formations (A Long Post About Old and New Formations)
Different Formations (A Long Post About Old and New Formations): Picking a formation in Football Manager can be a...
Cleon Tactics & Training Tips 37 11-11-2007 09:54 PM
The formations that counter other formations
The formations that counter other formations: Can anyone list the formations that can counter...
bobinski Tactics & Training Tips 12 05-29-2007 12:34 PM
Balanced tactic....
Balanced tactic....: After much looking at everyones tactics i've...
Leentfc Tactics & Training Tips 5 11-16-2006 08:23 AM
against attacking formations - what do I do?
against attacking formations - what do I do?: Hi, I'm going ok as Darlington, playing the...
dukesisking Tactics & Training Tips 0 11-04-2006 08:15 AM

More threads of paulsgruff
Thread Date Forum Replies Last Post
Managing to be a Manager
Managing to be a Manager: 19th November, 2006 “I can’t believe...
06-27-2007 Football Manager 60 07-12-2007 03:17 AM
Is it possible to alternate stadium pictures smartly, like this?
Is it possible to alternate stadium pictures smartly, like this?: Hi, I'm not really sure where to ask this, I...
05-07-2007 Skinning Hideout 3 06-02-2007 09:01 AM
Experimental RoO/RoT Reversal Method - Balanced Extremely Attacking Formations
Experimental RoO/RoT Reversal Method - Balanced Extremely Attacking Formations: I have followed the ideas of the RoO and RoT...
05-29-2007 Tactics & Training Tips 0 05-29-2007 11:04 PM
Can someone give me some advice on how to stop the red cards?
Can someone give me some advice on how to stop the red cards?: I'm playing with Stalybridge in the conference...
05-26-2007 Tactics & Training Tips 7 05-27-2007 05:51 AM
Does this tactic have any chance of being effective or am I wasting my time?
Does this tactic have any chance of being effective or am I wasting my time?: I have recently been tinkering with a 3 sweeper...
05-05-2007 Tactics & Training Tips 4 05-08-2007 04:51 AM

Other threads in forum Tactics & Training Tips
Thread Date Thread Starter Replies Last Post
Getting too many long shots
Getting too many long shots: I am using the beta patch for FM 2008, and...
11-18-2007 TaxCollector 1 11-19-2007 01:07 AM
Im using 4-1-3-2 attacking football......pls advice & comment
Im using 4-1-3-2 attacking football......pls advice & comment: Hi Pals,im using 4-1-3-2 formation.2 wing back,2...
03-23-2007 acmilankenji 4 03-24-2007 11:56 AM
Senol Gunes' 3-3-3-1: Cleon, Rashidi...some fine tuning pls
Senol Gunes' 3-3-3-1: Cleon, Rashidi...some fine tuning pls: Tis' the season to be jolly. Given that its the...
12-31-2006 CaptainC 7 01-31-2007 03:19 PM
WOW!
WOW!: I have just started season 2 with Aston Villa,...
12-06-2006 Spinza 3 12-06-2006 11:24 PM
can someone help please
can someone help please: i need a great tactic for arsenal can someone...
11-10-2006 dlayden84 1 11-11-2006 08:41 AM

» Online Users: 42
1 members and 41 guests
AllCdnBoy
Most users ever online was 2,128, 07-21-2008 at 08:27 PM.

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Fitness.com | Weight Loss | Training & Fitness | BodyBuilding | Chinese | Spanish | French | Germany | Italian | Friend Codes |
You are viewing Experimental RoO/RoT Reversal Method - Balanced Extremely Attacking Formations.