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Old 11-15-2007, 12:17 AM   Buying Youth Post #1
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One thing that I have noticed, is that it is very expensive to buy 16/17 year olds, but what is a little annoying is overseas players will turn down a wage offer of 4000 pounds/week when they are only getting 55 pounds at the moment.
Is there a reason for this?
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:25 AM   Buying Youth Post #2
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Not all players are like Lucas Neill, and just go where they get the most money. Some actually consider their career, and want to progress before they move clubs.

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Old 11-15-2007, 12:39 AM   Buying Youth Post #3
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Overseas players probably want to stay in their home country until they mature.

If you do buy one, it's always a good idea to get 2 or 3 from the same country so they don't get home sick and adapt better to a foreign environment.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:40 AM   Buying Youth Post #4
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For whatever reason players aged 16 never seem to join until they have already signed a professional contract with their club. There is probably a reason it's been implemented like this I just don't know what it is.

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One thing that I have noticed, is that it is very expensive to buy 16/17 year olds
That appears to depend on the players reputation, the clubs reputation and how the AI manager evaluates the player. I signed two players that my scout said had the potential to be leading premiership players, both aged 17. One came from a Primera Liga Spanish side cost me 1.2m and the one from an English League 2 side cost me 110K.

It seems to be that if a player has played games for a first team side that has a division he is more likely to cost more as the AI manager sees a higher 'perceived CA/PA'. In the above example the Spanish kid had played a few games for the B team in the lower division but the English kid had made no appearances at either the reserve team or first team level.

If the AI teams have the same tools as us to judge players then lower league teams are pretty much screwed because the quality of their staff in judging player potential will determine how accurately they can assess the potential of a player. Thus leading to my ability to sign a potential world beater for such a low price. Then again I might discover as these players develop, or don't develop as the case may be, that my scout is an idiot.

I can't comment on the realism of it as I have limited knowledge but there are always counter arguments for both sides. Why did Barcelona let Fabregas go? or How come in real life with players with great potential, such as Cofie recently, does there seem to be a general consensus in the footballing world about a player's potential but this isn't accurately reflected in FM? etc. etc. It's a tough balance to find without it becoming too obviously skewed in one direction.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:52 AM   Buying Youth Post #5
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For whatever reason players aged 16 never seem to join until they have already signed a professional contract with their club. There is probably a reason it's been implemented like this I just don't know what it is.
Its because they have already signed a precontract with their current club.
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Its because they have already signed a precontract with their current club
:thup: I forgot about that.

If that's the case then they should implement something that stops you from actually going through the process of negotiating a bid and then offering a contract. Because if this is the reason they never seem to sign, at the moment the game gives you the impression that you can actually sign them.

Not a show stopping issue but still annoying.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:03 AM   Buying Youth Post #7
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Definately. Took me about 10 seasons with FM2007 to figure it out.

I think you are able to see it in their details though. That they will sign a professional contract at a given date. At least that was the case in 07. Havent gotten far enough in 08 to need to deal with the issue.
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yeah ok, that would make sense,
thanks Bjaart
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Its because they have already signed a precontract with their current club.
i'm pretty sure it's generally not. teams in selected leagues tend to do this, but i've never seen teams in unselected leagues do this. they just repeatedly sign youth contracts.
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