retired_plasal

Every survey needs a "no opinion" box. To cover the people who don't use an aspect of something, or the item in question is so average that neither good nor poor is justifiable. It would be invalid without one.

retired_vocostoner311

As an analyse:
_we can see that a patch is better than no patch.
_Also there hasn't been a big improve from 077 to 08.
_ most people don't care about the skin (that's a good thing because there are more important elements)
_ FM keeps standing ahead when it comes to database acuurate
_ people are dissapointed with media option
_ regen system could better but id not bad
_ People (40%) are clearly wanting an update for the match engine
_ no difficulty methods nor 3D

Nice work BTW :thup:

retired_svand67

Every survey needs a "no opinion" box. To cover the people who don't use an aspect of something, or the item in question is so average that neither good nor poor is justifiable. It would be invalid without one. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Then all you survey is that half of all respondents have no personality whatsoever.

Result.

retired_faline50

Those chargeable games are bringing the bread and butter to their breakfast table to eat...

Some very weird results in that survey contrasting very much the picture I've got from these forums. Of course more people will complain than praise, but there were so many say, complaining about the default skin and yet the opinnion in the survey seems to be that most liked it. I don't undervalue anybody's opinnions but I hope that people who are judging things have good judgement skills. Too many are only naive and can't understand wider points of view, and aren't strong enough to criticise themselves or things they like.

I don't have a problem with those who enjoy the game but it bugs me that they won't have room and understanding for those who don't have that much fun. I hope it doesn't affect too much to the development if casual gamers who don't demand that much are liking it and are unable to spot flaws, and then more demanding people would be ignored as most can't see if something is wrong, so that would make the game "good". And I think that SI can be the first to agree that people are right to demand more as it could be possible to give more, and they would be more than happy to give that much more which would silence even the greatest critics. No bigger a critic than the creator itself usually, which is good.

I wouldn't be very proud if I made art and mass people liked it without understanding anything, and people who understood something didn't held it in very high regard. Again, I don't say that people who like FM are dumb but some settle for less and some don't. Let those satisfied ones play and make the game better for the unsatisfied :thup:.

retired_svand67

Those chargeable games are bringing the bread and butter to their breakfast table to eat...

Some very weird results in that survey contrasting very much the picture I've got from these forums. Of course more people will complain than praise, but there were so many say, complaining about the default skin and yet the opinnion in the survey seems to be that most liked it. I don't undervalue anybody's opinnions but I hope that people who are judging things have good judgement skills. Too many are only naive and can't understand wider points of view, and aren't strong enough to criticise themselves or things they like.

I don't have a problem with those who enjoy the game but it bugs me that they won't have room and understanding for those who don't have that much fun. I hope it doesn't affect too much to the development if casual gamers who don't demand that much are liking it and are unable to spot flaws, and then more demanding people would be ignored as most can't see if something is wrong, so that would make the game "good". And I think that SI can be the first to agree that people are right to demand more as it could be possible to give more, and they would be more than happy to give that much more which would silence even the greatest critics. No bigger a critic than the creator itself usually, which is good.

I wouldn't be very proud if I made art and mass people liked it without understanding anything, and people who understood something didn't held it in very high regard. Again, I don't say that people who like FM are dumb but some settle for less and some don't. Let those satisfied ones play and make the game better for the unsatisfied :thup:. </BLOCKQUOTE>

That's life ..

You are always going to find the vast majority of everyone to be witless, unimaginative, under educated, judgemental, shallow, incompetent, opinionated, unqualfied monkeys.

Asking them what they think is pointless; largely why nobody lends any credence whatsoever to quantitative opinion polls and/or democratic elections.

The survey is only useful if it is targeted and broken down into exhaustive categories or applicant. Starting with age, experience, qualfications etc.

Even then you will only ever find people respond how their particular class dictates.

All human opinion is meaningless when put the the test - if it weren't we wouldn't have poverty, dying ecosystems and 250 million fat ignorant Americans dicating world policy.

retired_redbutterfly

Gubbs...



You're going very much off-topic here. If you have a problem with opinion polls or surveys in general just ignore them okay?

Furthermore, if you want a discussion of what this poll can be used for, there is a 2-page discussion in the thread which I've linked to below, so if you have anything further to add in this (unproductive) direction, could you please just post it in there?

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...1/m/3002065963

retired_redbutterfly

Thank you!


I think this a rather good summation of some of the most important points to take from this. Some of my own points:

* I was surprised that almost a third thought that FM2007 was better than FM2008.

* I thought it interesting that while only app. 28% were dissatisfied with the amount of features announced, 45% were dissatisfied with the general progress achieved. This might have something to do with the fact that 2/3 of people felt that bugs were ranging from "unacceptable" to "a bit of a problem".

* A large number of people found that the improved financial side of things had contributed the most to their enjoyment of the game from the list of new features.

* A LOT of people are disapproving of media and player interaction.

* The match engine is a very divisive issue. Apart from media/player interaction, it has the largest number of "Very poor" answers, but a great many people are also positive about it.

* It looks a bad sign for SI that only 11-12% are interested in FM Live on here.

retired_faline50

Lol, I wouldn't dare to be that frank, but sadly you've got the point there.

dane0, I don't think he doesn't get this survey stuff and it doesn't make your efforts any less valuable. There will be smarter and less smarter, black and white, big and small people to state their opinnions but it has nothing to do with the poll. I bet the big majority is only happy for these things to be created and grateful to people who try to help.

You surely understand yourself too that how "official" your survey can be as you have stated many times earlier, and I only hope that everybody else too can take it as it is. Some have the brain, some don't. But everybody could and should still try to learn from it. Thank you for making it happen :thup:.

CorradoKid

I think purely the timing of this survey reflected badly with FMLive more than anything, if this was carried out before FM08 was released or not long after the announcement had just been made the number would be much higher. The focus is always going to be on the main game while its latest release is still relatively new

mrfunktastick

was this for a school/uni project as seems an awful lot of work for something done for "fun"?