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I have noticed there a few more people on here who are putting the global approach to good effect - i myself first considered it after asmo's AI thread where he examines the behaviour of AI managers
so i thought i would start a new game with crewe to test it out - crewe are predicted to finish 7th which in my opinion is a bit high and i expected to be around the playoffs - immeidately the chairman accepted bids for my two best players vuaghan and jones - i didnt replace them as i wanted to see how well the tactics fared
i chose to play the 433 default (chelsea style) and after a solid start i decided to stick with the default tactic
to my surprise/dismay i won the league!
i found this slightly annoying tbh because i did not make one tweak - just default 433 all th way.
I am firmly in the boat of tactical realists and love complex tactics but this discovery is slightly frustratig considering i spent all those hours developing tactics with individual player instructions and team instructions.
the only thing i dd slightly different to what i usually do is to do manual team talks and always tell the players that the pressure is off them
what are everyones opinions on the apparent lack of tactical nouse required to do so well?
Perhaps it's simply a case of simple is better. The game of football is not a complex game. The most beautiful football is played by the teams who do not over-complicate things. Look at Arsenal. A player receives it and passes and moves. A player receives it and passes and moves. A player...blah blah blah. It's when they reach the final third they start to complicate things, hence the reason they don't score as freely as of days of old.
In FM, it seems that the more individual settings you implement,the more often you lose. It's that simple. I can't tell you why global works because there are no hints or any visual cues as to why. It just does. Perhaps too, that all of this time I have been weakening my team with poor team-talks. Is it a coincidence that I am playing much better now my assistant is in control of them? I don't know because I changed this at around the same time I changed to global.
As successful as I am now, it still doesn't alter the fact that to get here, I had to tweak, tweak, and tweak some more up blind alleys and back again, and down the pit of despair. It's unacceptable that I had to trial & error my way to the top. This might be fun for some, but for me it's a bad joke.
I agree with both of you. I'm now playing with a global mentaluty set up and getting better results.
A friend of mine, despite having no evidence of it (I've never seen him play), claims to make very very few adjustments to the defaults and get a fair amount of success. Recently I've been believing him more and more.
Originally posted by moggydave:
I agree with both of you. I'm now playing with a global mentaluty set up and getting better results.
A friend of mine, despite having no evidence of it (I've never seen him play), claims to make very very few adjustments to the defaults and get a fair amount of success. Recently I've been believing him more and more.
I don't see why he would lie about it TBH. I think he is spot on. I can only conclude that having most of your players on the same mentality ensures that the whole team is on the 'same page'—the only evidence I have of this though is the results I am getting. I am winning a lot more games home and away than ever before. If you remember in the manual it states somewhere along the lines of: 'Mentality is the single most important slider...'. I think I agree with this now.
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I had another theory too, that a lot of bad habits are picked up from reading too much into the threads on this forum. Certainly, I have been in a situation when implementing tactics and thinking, 'Oh so and so said do this', or 'so and so did that'. I think a lot of people are in the same boat here and why so many people don't seem to succeed. I think, and I could be wrong, that people post some things for posting sake to somehow boost self-esteem. The fact that there is no evidence for most of these claims makes the thread hollow and obsolete. It's dangerous for the not-so-experienced since they get stuck in a rut and can't get out due to the bad input they have received. I know that my theories are working wonders. Why? Coz 'am winnin'! That's all I can tell 'ye. (Bit of scouse for you...)
Originally posted by bluenose1:
Totally agree with you Mikel some these boys on here got a gob like the mersey tunnel
global is still winning games for me in the championship will keep updating
Ha ha, good stuff. By the way, what team are you? Are you using my up-to-date away formation or the original one? I just beat Palace away 2-0 first game of the season with Derby using it. Keep us updated mate.
I tried to walk through the Mersey tunnel one night with a traffic cone on me ead after a night down Matthew Street. Didn't make it very far before the bizzies stopped me.
Sense my thread inspired bluenose i feel a need to post in this thread even though Asmo is getting the credit . Anyhooo
I was having a discussion with one of my friend who plays the game with me and is a relative newcomer yet he has consistently outplayed me in the league , saying that I do win games between us. So I asked him how does he do it? He said its all about making it simple, not giving the team many instructions. He was astonished when I mentioned that I adjusted the mentality, passing ,tempo etc... His comeback was your confusing the team. With this in mind i took a small break from FM to clear my head as such and this has got me thinking.
We know that default tactics are balanced and we know it takes time for a team to gel and learn the tactic, so maybe a gradual introduction of instructions is a way to go. Because if you micro manage the team you run a greater risk of failure in my opinion.So midway thought my latest save with Portsmouth(I don't know why but I always chose them for some reason)i decided to switch my tactics to a default 442 formation only adjusting the team mentality to "attacking" as this means passing is more direct in a way and there is less back passes. And this turned an average looking season into a 5th position in the EPL.
So basically what I'm getting at, is most managers change everything when designing a tactic from team instructions to individual this can work and it does but from experience best results are achieved when the club has excellent coaches. As coaches ensure that players learn their instructions and are ready to preform when called upon and not forgetting the quality of the players.And I totally agree with Arteta is God in that my judgment is clouded due to spending too much time on the forum as you develop a pattern of what to do in whichever scenario.
Oops :eek: sorry abromovic! twas your thread not asmo's
used defualt 433 to win league one and now using diamond no arrows and am top of championship ( i have done some of the tweaks outlined in arteta's thread)
think we need to spread the word about the joys of global boys!
Originally posted by bluenose1:
Oops :eek: sorry abromovic! twas your thread not asmo's
used defualt 433 to win league one and now using diamond no arrows and am top of championship ( i have done some of the tweaks outlined in arteta's thread)
think we need to spread the word about the joys of global boys!
Is cool, my thread was created to help people not to attain any reflected glory.
May i enquire as to why you changed the formation? Was it due to players you brought in?
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