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I was just looking at a squad screenshot I posted and I noticed my main 2 wingers werent really scoring many goals.
Andres Guardado 5 goals in 48 games
Ricardo Quaresma 4 in 40 ish games.
I remember when i started playing FM I was getting more goals from the wings, although my tactics were a bit 'hit and miss' so I'm not sure how I managed it exactly!
I know Guardado is an assist demon, although being at work I can't get any stats for you
I do suspect Quaresma of under-performing somewhat though.
Is there any tweaks to your tactics you can make to encourage the wingers to get goals, I obviously have long shots often, as I know for sure Guardado has good stats for it (I also have Sneijder who sometimes plays wide but he is initially a AMC for me)
I play a normal 4-4-2 with liverpool, usually very wide and attacking looking to get a lot of crosses in, although I suspect that may be my problem, If I am looking to send my wingers out to cross, that would explain why my goals are coming from my strikers and my AMC's
perhaps I have answered my own question but posed another one....
with such a tactic where you want the wingers crossing the ball, is it possible to have them scoring goals as well?
I use long farrows on my ML/MR, is this perhaps encouraging them to get up to the byline and cross from there?
should i perhaps try short farrows and specify 'cross from deep'
also with forward runs often so then the left winger gets on the end of the right wingers cross and vice versa
i guess i have just gone through things myself but does anyone have any further ideas to help wingers score goals?
Is there any tweaks to your tactics you can make to encourage the wingers to get goals, I obviously have long shots often, as I know for sure Guardado has good stats for it (I also have Sneijder who sometimes plays wide but he is initially a AMC for me)
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I prefer to use wingers to run centrally in my formations so far, and never use crossing as I have found the central attack more efficient. My wingers are either arrowd in centrally to the AMC (good against attacking teams) or a small farrow straight or no farrow at all to play the AI's defensive 442 which is strong on the wings.
In the centrally arrowed version mentioned above the wingers see a lot of assists and goals, in the latter version, not to much but they are emplyed more defensively.
I would try reducing the farrows as you said so your wingers aren't at the by-line all the time, also try going slightly narrower as this can create a lot of space becuase your wingers com inside and are cliser to play so the opposing FB's follow them and then when a through ball is played between FB and CB the winger has a good chance of gettinmg to it.
Also your wingers being on long shots often could be counter-productive to what you're after becuase if they are on the edge of the box and have space to run into they may try the spectacular instead of dribling through for an easier chance.
Something I find that helps wingers score is putting them on cross ball mixed so they might cut into the box and shoot or assist the other winger on the edge of the box.
Lastly you could try free roles on your wingers so they roam a bit more and this would also give your team a greater attacking threat becuase it allows your FB's to get forward more, it also means opposing FB's are pulled out of position, and can also let your CM's dominate the middle of the park becuase they will have more space and the wingers will offer an easier pass becuase they maybe more infield - this is also an advantage of having a narrower width
Lastly you could try free roles on your wingers so they roam a bit more and this would also give your team a greater attacking threat becuase it allows your FB's to get forward more, it also means opposing FB's are pulled out of position, and can also let your CM's dominate the middle of the park becuase they will have more space and the wingers will offer an easier pass becuase they maybe more infield - this is also an advantage of having a narrower width
Hello Aston
Do you use this technique? Im curious to know are your wingers not pulled out of position and sp what happens when when they are needed to defend, as the AI 442 attacks are orientated down the wings?
You make an excellent point, on my old villa save i used a 4-3-2-1 formation e.g flat back 4, 3 CM's, AML/AMR and a ST.
In this formation my full backs were very defensive and basically never strayed past the 2/3 into opposition territory so when I used this I never had a problem, but i didn't use it very often - only if I thought the opposing wide areas would be a good place to attack.
So I can not really provide a 100% conclusive answer but I can honestly say i never had any problems doing this if needed - then again that may be becuase I played with 5 in the midfield so if the wingers did go missing I had a lot of cover from the 3 CM's.
However I know that wwfan uses this to good effect as does Rashidi in his recent thread ' Creating Tactics - A Reasoned Approach'
And I also think if you have enough quality in your team as the OP appears to using free roles on the wingers could be a very potent weapon.
Yes well that interesting, for my part Ive found that I can be creative with the wingers if the AI is playing an attacking 442, however the one with the two long farrows can be dangerous.
Even more dangerous with the wings is the AI couterattack, the variation with 2 small farrows is just nasty.
I hope at one point soon to be able to get some idea of what the AI has set on is sliders for these formations.
If you have players who are good on both wings (at worst competent, but accomplished is far better), then play them on the wing that is oppostie to their stronger foot ie left footers on the right, right footers on the left, either footers playing on the opposite one to the other if he's one footed. For chelsea who I took over due to the huge budget I play rooben or Ronalod on the right and Joe Cole or ronaldo on the left, sometimes with Kalou coming in if I get an injury.
I'm sorry but I can't edit so I'm going to post again: this method means that you will not get as many assits but to get the goals you must have an arrow cutting inside to the nearest striker
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