retired_kregz

It's really frustrating seeing one of your best players decline in his key attribute. Aguero for example. At the start of the game he has 20 for acc and 18 for pace, and 3-4 years later those attributes are down to 17.

Is that supposed to happen?

retired_celiabjh

I think that is completly unrealistic to have a 34 year-old player with pace and acceleration at 1 where once he had 10 or 12...

In real life pace and acceleration are qualities that you cannot train ! (well improving strenght might help but not very much).You are born with these atributes and you can't lose them over time (not to a very significant extent)...
The same goes with technique...

retired_thehpsleb

As I have said in other thread;
Players above the age of 30 loose psycical stats way to fast in FM 08.
If you look at player like Maldini, Cafu, Serginho and Inzaghi they still have good pace and all can play 90 min in reallife.
In FM as soon as a player get 30 or 31 year old you see pace, acc, stamina and strenght drop so fast its unreal
Just look at Cafu, hes 37 and he just keep running forward as often as possible all 90 min..
Take anyone in the game who is around 30 year old with high psycical stats then look at him 4-5 years later - all those stats will be be under 10 .
A high value in professionism and ambition should allow that player to keep hes CA very high even at age above 30 imo!

What I meen is that a player with high professionism and ambition should not peak at the age of 30..there should be some +- variable of 3-4 year on players with very high values so the CA doesnt drop 10-15 points as soon as they get 31 or 32 year old .
Every player in the game who is under 30 will be "useless" when they reach 34-35.
Even those with 20 professionlism, 20 ambition and a CA above 180 ..the psycical stats will still be under 10 when they reach 34-35 - maybe its a bug ?

retired_celiabjh

That is true,Joor,as soon as my player goes over 29 I start thinking weather should I renew his contract or not...and I'm preety sure it's not a bug but just poor game thinking and programing from the creators...

retired_traon

Got to admit this is an issue I have aswell. If it were true to life, yea sure SOME players do lose their pace...but thats usually more to do with a career riddled with injury (see Alan Shearer for a good example) than natural old age kicking in.

I like Joor's examples, players Cafu as mentioned, have had relatively injury free careers and continue to have extremely good physical conditioning.

Let's take a look at this please SI.

zyx345

It's always happened in FM that players will have a dramatic decline in their physical stats once they get into their 30s. This is true of real life, but not to nearly the extent that SI portray it. Strength and stamina aren't too bad, but pace and acceleration mean that players who rely on these stats (prety much everyone except keepers, centre midfielders and some strikers) won't be effective in their late 30s.

Natural fitness determines what age and how quickly their stats decline, but someone mentioned Maldini as an example. Not sure about FM08, but in FM07 he started off with 14 for pace at 38 yrs of age. In the game, someone with pace 20 and natural fitness 20 would not have pace 14 by that age.

However, you can train pace and acceleration. Just take a look at Rocky III (I think), where Apollo Creed keeps racing Rocky at sprints on the beach when he's coaching him. Eventually, Rocky beats him due to the training

retired_suziej

I don't understand why the responses have nothing to do with the original post. The thread starter is talking about a 24 year old Sergio Aguero losing 3 points of acceleration during 3 years where his stats are supposed to be going up. I have never seen anything like that and can only assume it's a training problem. Either like a 1 star aerobic coach or a very light aerobic training schedule is my only guess.

zyx345

They do, because they all relate to pace and accel. declining.

As for Aguero, even injuries don't have too much of an impact on stats on 08 from what I've seen, so I assume it is training. Perhaps you sacked your aerobic coach or had him nicked? Mind you, that'd mean everyone's pace and accel etc would decline so it's probably more to do with Aguero's schedule.

retired_kregz

I have 7 star coaches in all areas of training and I'm using Tug's training schedule(really famous around here).
Another example is Piatti. I signed him for my Man City save a season ago and his acceleration and pace declined by 1 point.

Take a look at that.
http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=piattiix3.jpg

retired_kregz

And here's my aerobic training.
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aerobickg9.jpg

Piatti is 19 in my game btw