retired_Gary Rodgers

That's it! I'm done with this game. Hours of setting "weaker foot' and stupid individual close down and won the treble with leeds in the 3rd season.

The Method: "Cleon's Sheffield united thread" style tweaking + Tactic Rotation (4-4-2 till December and 4-5-1 from jan to end).

The Conclusion: I finally got the consistency and the results that I wanted but lost something essential. I did not have fun. The tedious setting changes have pummeled me into a boredom induced coma. The football matched the method - dull, boring and set-piece dependent.

What used to be: Ever since CM became FM, both branches have not fared well. FM is miles ahead of CM - True but CM 01/02 is still remains the best of the lot. I'm inclined to blame the 2d tactical engine for this decline in enjoyment. Here's why.

CM3- 2d overview implemented. Massive disappointment. - Owen-3-4-3 <-says enough. Totally unrealistic score lines.

CM4- cant remeber much but i know it sucked. Totally unrealistic score lines (12-0 wins).

CM 03/04- Every team had touble with pace. Diablo and Scramjet tore teams apart with ease. Totally unrealistic score lines.

FM 2005 - This was quite acceptable. It still had some bugs and issues but was very promising and fun.

FM 2006 - The Corner Disaster, Unorganized defense just made it a huge suck-fest.

FM 2007 - IMO the worst of the lot. The team talks have become so boring that most just set it to assistant. The method used to apply settings is so tedious and time consuming.This game can be summed up by one word - Frustration.

It seems the future will follow FM 2007. I expect FM Live to be tactically identical to FM 2007 and will not be buying it. I know SI still runs a healthy profit margin and couldn't care less about all the rants. I also know that years of mental association of EPL with FM will help SI retain a substantially large fan base for the foreseeable future. This means that suggestions from a minority group wont even matter. Hence, there is no option but to move on.

CM/FM has given me so much enjoyment over the years and i want to thank all those involved with the creation of the games. Thank you SI/Eidos, for all the wonderful memories.

retired_wmedsur

Not looking to rant either but i agree with much of what you have posted,the game lacked fun for me.

retired_alyalesch

i do feel the game has improved for those who enjoy the minute tactical detail, on the other hand those who just want a 'game' are dissapointed.
I think more tactical help is needed during the game because it isn't as hard as what people first think. wwfan and cleon have been the saviour of FM07 in my opinion (plus many others)

beccalennon80

It's too hard.WWfan and Cleon and many others spend hours to struggle with this game.Is this the price?

retired_roshan

I agree 100%

retired_fitnessconnection

I must admit, although not for all the same reasons, FM07 has produced the least amount of fun and i've been playing the series since day 1.

retired_makena123

forget what cleon and wwfan as to say its just there opinion,i enjoy reading the stuff these guys write but thats it read it and forget it!

they just play the game to death and break it then ruin it meaning the game is boring and not much fun!


you can play many different tactics and players and still win so STOP MOANING and keep playing.

how much time do u need to put into a new game these days fm is no different to any other game!!

retired_sumathitc

in reality terms this is probably the best so far, but like you say if you just want fun (which i do) CM 01/02 was the best.

FM is 1 of the most frustrating games your ever likely to play. You can have some of the best players in the world and stil not manage to beat teams like siena (no offence lol).

Like with my AC milan team i usually have about 20 shots a match against the lower teams of the division and dominate posession. But Inzaghi one of the best finishers in the world plays like he cant hit a cows arse with a banjo. Contrasting the opposing team on their first counter attack score a wondergoal courtousy of their star striker who has finishing of 6 and composure of 11. Someone tell me where the logic is in that?

retired_fitnessconnection

This is one of the games biggest problems and what takes the fun out of it. I've come across dozens of tactics that dominate games from start to finish, but even with the world's best strikers and defence, you struggle to score and your defenders are made to look like idiots, whilst every poor team you come up against, you find their strikers who have'nt scored all season usually find the net against you, whilst their defence and GK play like superstars!.

I did some tests which i posted elsewhere and over a season i was dropping an average of 20-30 points a season in games i should have won easily, whilst only gaining 4-8 points in games i could probably have lost.

This is where i imagine most people get the idea from that the game is set in the AI's favour and i have'nt seen any evidence to prove it wrong?.

retired_wmedsur

i would not want to knock this game as to be fair its a real challenge and a good game but like a few others i've not had fun with it,maybe its just not the game for me anymore which is shame as i've played cm/fm from the beginning,i'm probably more into buying a few players picking a decent in form side and sending them out