retired_anemoskkk

Yes, there are a lot of players getting frustrated, but I still think their complains are a bit exagerated. Let's bring the facts of FM vs Real Life:

- If it was that easy for a Big team to win every game agains small teams, why does Liverpool, Barcelona, etc, constatly loose points with those teams?

- If it was that easy wining every title, so why doesnt Chelsea or Real Madrid with all the stars they buy and money they spend are Champions every seasons?

People forget that there are facts extra-football that make giant teams loose titles to another giant teams. I think FM2007 is a good portrait of that situation. Although after a few seasons your team becomes so strong due to the players you bought that the AI teams start to strugle agains you.

retired_mgavlick

It seems to me that there is a 'reputation threshold' that, once breached, requires the mastering of a different tactical approach.

The most common complaint is: 'I won my first x games, sitting top of the league, but now I'm 8th and can't buy a win. Don't tell me it's tactics because I was top playing with the same tactic.'

The answer is: 'You have breached a 'reputation threshold' meaning teams will play ultra-conservatively against you, trying to frustrate rather than win. Your tactics can't cope with that.'

If these people, instead of whining, made some logical adjustments to these tactics they would continue to win. I like the idea behind your system but it will likely fail at higher levels for the above reason. Be prepared for people managing Chelsea to tell you 'Your tactic sucks' despite it succeeding magnificently with Dunfermline. You are right in suggesting it is less complex at the top level (I use my Control and Possession tactics most games now whereas previously I mixed up five approaches) but it does require a different mindset.

retired_anemoskkk

Great point of view, the reputation threshold one. I had never thought that would had such an impact into the game. I always thought that the team overall quality would be more decisive for the opponents approach.

I agree that this system would probably fail at higher levels. Maybe it's a good approach to make good seasons in small clubs.

Yes, it's a very common complaint, and another thing people complaint is about tweaking. I think tweaking is used by all manager arround the world. For example, the famous Mourinho pre-match reports show us that all managers prepare the game according to opponent weakness/stregnths.

Yes, top level clubs need a more "dominant" system. But in other hand, your players quality is so huge that your tactical changes will have a faster effect.

Btw, your 442 TTF RoO pack (I saw it first at fm-britain)satisfies both big and small clubs. I've made some tests with it.
The miedfilder holding the ball is an "old" trick from previous FM that still works a lot. It opens a lot of passing lines.
The counter and defensive have some delicious tactical details on player instructions and I have to say the Defend is very solid.
It gave me some good new perspectives into tactics.

retired_anemoskkk

The season has started at Scottish Premier League. The fans already made a sing for me.

For this new study I based myself more using the RoO concept, but I'm gonna use a "universal system" based on a 4-5-1 with 2 Defender miedfilders (Hey, I'm the underdog, so can't be too much ofensive).

As for that I'm gonna use wwfan 4-4-2 TTF RoO and will make similar versions (defend, counter, etc). Hope to get good results.

Cheers

retired_anemoskkk

Well, looks like it will be a 451 with 1 Def miedf only and 2 MC. It has been all reduced to 3 frames. Vs 2 Strikers, Vs 1 Striker + 2 wingers and VS 3 center-backs systems.

Wish me luck. Season is about to start

retired_anemoskkk

Well, It has been a great season start, even better than I expected. here are the results:


If my team keep this form I will post and explain further details.

Take care all FM'ers

retired_anemoskkk

Forgot the link. oops. Sorry

beccalennon80

:thup: continue your work it's interesting approach.

retired_B-Scott

Kandinsky I had some success matching particualr formations to those of the AI. This system isnt foolproof by any means and I wonder if I implemented your system it could be imporved.

But as a first step, I wonder if the logic of your system allies to the deployments I have already worked out - could you have a look and let me know if theres a link?

http://www.fm-britain.co.uk/forums/i...opic=4919&st=0

socks

retired_anemoskkk

Great job you made there socks. Must explore fm-brit forum a bit more. Btw, my season in Dunfermline, I was loosing a game, and I went "creative" and make some gung-ho tactics, but amazing or not those gung-ho tactics are terrific. But, gotta test them further, cause only used them for 3 games.