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Old 05-28-2006, 10:20 AM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #1
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So Club A in Div. 1 wants my player. I'm in Div 2 (this is in Scotland, btw), and I want to keep him. I set his value at 1 mil even though he's only worth 10k.

Club A comes in with an offer of 925k. I'm thinking, I MUST ACCEPT THIS because my club loses money every month. I accept, and now my club is filthy rich (compared to the rest of Div 2 and 3. (Nearly 1 mil in the register) and the club gives me 325k for new player purchases (I've been with the club for four seasons).

Here's the question: In the realm of LLM that has been created here, is this sale "fair" in the sense that I feel I may have seriously unbalanced the game with such a transfer. I have more cash than I know what to do with, and I can afford a ton of players who were unavailable to me prior to this sale.

What's the LLM ethics on this?
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Old 05-28-2006, 10:56 AM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #2
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In the game. Was he worth it? Did he average 8.00+ every game, were there many Clubs interested or just the two? Did it seem like a reasonable offer, given that The Auld Firm are prone to buying good youngsters and letting them rot in the reserves so they don't do damage to them in the future.

In real life. No Lower League Club with a manager and board with half a brain between them would look a gift-horse in the mouth.

Jiminy Cricket time...always let your conscience be your guide.
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Old 05-28-2006, 01:14 PM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #3
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If he's worth it, why not?

And afford a ton of players? The clubs reputation didn't improve
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Old 05-28-2006, 01:20 PM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #4
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Now, that's a valid point
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Old 05-28-2006, 04:55 PM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #5
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Valid point, but nevertheless a sale like that changes the save for ever. As mentioned in the goat thread my 19yo DC valued 65K just got 3 offers for 2.4M and before that got close to ten 1.5M+ offers. No doubt the guy's brilliant. He averaged 7.68 last season, but 2.4M is a real class-player ready to step into any EPL side, perhaps bar the top 3-4. This guy is clearly not that good. Unless he has some sick potential this is way unrealistic.

One of the reasons I don't want to sell him is that I need him and the offers are unrealistic. But on the other side, if such offers came along it's unrealistic to reject them. Another reason I don't want to accept is that the club will get filthy rich. Wage budget can explode with no consequences, and that just doesn't feel right.
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In real life, big teams do pay rather stupid sums of money for players in the lower leagues. FM sometimes takes it to extremes.

Don't forget, though, that the automatic valuation of players is simply down to game mechanics. If you've got a striker who's banging in 30 goals a season in Div 3, he's going to be worth far more than the £5k the game's likely to set as his price tag. And usually, the AI knows this as well.
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Old 05-29-2006, 02:05 AM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #7
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It is a problem within the game, I find (perceived or real). The game is not perfect as we all know, and sometimes you've just got to play the game.

I've currently got £9m in the bank, £350k per month wage budget in the Swedish topflight for 4 years, royal league, uefa cup, even played a 3rd round qualifier for the CL and still no-one will join. I'm paying about £80k per month and my biggest transfer fee paid is £95k. As Emmenaar says money won't give you a team. It just takes away one of the external pressures on your tenure :thup:
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:29 PM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #8
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In my Swedish game, I sold a MR to FC Kopenhagen for £250k in the summer transfer window of my first season, and a DC for £1m to Hacken at the end of the season.

2 seasons on, and both players are transfer listed for a combined price of £5k. While the offers seemed a bit unrealistic, I didn't hesitate to accept them - both sales have more or less guaranteed my financial survival, and have meant that I haven't had to constantly keep one eye on balancing the books.
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Old 05-30-2006, 02:47 AM   Excessive Transfer Fees Post #9
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In most of the responses I'm seeing the same idea: take the money, but it won't really change anything at your club. From what I'm seeing so far, I think that's truth.

While I have been able to afford more scouts, they are still crap scouts (my team is semi-pro). While they have found me two gems in the Dutch league, getting them to join me was a real task.

Also, after the sale, the team moved my percentage of transfer money to keep up to 100 percent. Then a couple months later, I was back down to 60 percent. So, in effect, other than having a couple more players in my lineup than before, the sale hasn't helped much.

Oddly enough, I now have many players who are 7.50 rating or higher (we're having a pretty good season now!), yet not one club has made an offer for any of them.

Curiouser and curiouser...
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I agree with what was said above. Believe it or not, sometimes the AI will screw YOU with a sale, charging far more than a player's value. By the way, if you are in Scotland division 2 what are you doing scouting the Netherlands?
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