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Old 04-27-2006, 04:27 PM   Over-rated England Post #61
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Ok see your point and agree. I just think that to have charge of a nation who are genuine World Cup contenders, you would do your upmost to add that honour to your C.V.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:27 PM   Over-rated England Post #62
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Your so right Jack Charlton hated beating the English
That was personal, he applied for the job as England manager and never even received an acknowlegment, let alone a reply. He hated the FA after that and wanted to show that he deserved some respect.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:39 PM   Over-rated England Post #63
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Do you think Sven would like losing to Sweden. If O'Neill got the England job do you think he would role over against Northern Ireland?

These lads are Professionals and their rofessional careers depend on getting them results.

If Scolari gets the England job you can bet he will give 100% to the England cause and then support Brazil in the next round when England are on the plane home having lost on penalties
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:54 PM   Over-rated England Post #64
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Do you think Sven would like losing to Sweden. If O'Neill got the England job do you think he would role over against Northern Ireland?

These lads are Professionals and their rofessional careers depend on getting them results.

If Scolari gets the England job you can bet he will give 100% to the England cause and then support Brazil in the next round when England are on the plane home having lost on penalties
I do not doubt their professionalism, it was never likely that Sweden were going to challenge for a world cup, similarly Northern Ireland are not going to win one either so the chance of meeting either in the Semis of finals was never an issue.
I am sure Scolari would be professional if England met Brazil in the final of the WC but he does not really care if England lose does he? He may get upset at the blot on his CV but he does not really, deep in his heart, give a twopenny toss. He gets paid either way.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:06 PM   Over-rated England Post #65
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Results based pay for managers and players...now there is an idea worth considering!
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:09 PM   Over-rated England Post #66
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Results based pay for managers and players...now there is an idea worth considering!
Maybe it should be the other way around, no pay for the England manager. Then you would see who really wanted the job. The players don't get paid by England anyway, only expenses and bonuses.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:18 PM   Over-rated England Post #67
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I meant at a club level too; but that is still a good idea.
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:04 PM   Over-rated England Post #68
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That fine, but who's to say this isn't the start of sustained success for EPL clubs? In the 13 years since semifinals were re-introduced to the Campions League, there have been 11 Italian teams and 12 Spanish teams reaching that stage, so why shouldn't English teams enjoy this kind of success in future.
I don't disagree that it's possible, but the game appears to overrate the EPL and make this automatic. In every version of CM and FM I have played, dating back to CM 97/98, EPL teams have always been making it to the semifinals and final of the Champions League. If I saw a mix of this, with occasionally the EPL becoming a dominant league for a number of years, that would make more sense.

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Also, you say England have been underacheiving so I don't understand why it is so wrong for England to finally reach their potentaial and do well!
Again, that's certainly possible, but the game has ALWAYS made it so that England does better in the game than it has done in the past 40 years in real life. It's in every saved game, without fail. I have never had a saved game in which England did not win the World Cup at least once or twice out of every four or five World Cups.
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Old 04-27-2006, 08:10 PM   Over-rated England Post #69
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Not always. England went out in the groups and Swedish guy resigned in a save of mine!!

The guy who took the job then got sacked at the end of the tournament but that's a whole different story!!
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:55 AM   Over-rated England Post #70
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You probably find most people have English leagues loaded so that would automatically give it a 'leg up' at international and club level unless you load every country.

Anyway, the poms get their Brazilian. I guess it's the best part of 4.5 years before we see if it is a good move. I'll start a market and offer 25-1 for England to win WC2010
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