retired_pmetzger1

I'm almost tempted to copy and paste that into the RANT thread in the Hut. :gil:

retired_jade1813

true but still.

retired_kamal_linux

If this is the US definition of liberals then it explains alot. The definition of a liberal, in terms of political theory, is and always has been an advocate of less government intervention into peoples lives. That is is the central feature of liberalism, by definition. If Dr Hook's representation of the contemporary US view is accurate, then the US seems to define 'liberal' and 'conservative' directly counter to the rest of the entire history of Western democratic thought.

KingsbayYHPE

"England and America are two countries separated by a common language." George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

Seldom has this been more apparent

retired_kooky

You mean like the USA used to support the IRA?

Or is that different because it was the USA doing the supporting?

retired_mrsjb

Some definitions for the non-Yankees

In the US:

Conservative = Extreme Right
Moderate = Right
Liberal = Centre Right

According to the media:

Conservative = Right (in the sense of correctness or everyone's right to freedom of religion as long as it's being a Christian)
Moderate = Indecisive non-patriot
Liberal = Communist (in the US sense of the word - i.e. dictatorship etc)

retired_tye1234

JCB That is scarily true!

After 9/11 many American’s asked them selves why they were attacked, and many of them came to the correct conclusion that it a lot of the hatred stemmed from American foreign policy and especially America’s unwavering support for Israel. And the American people resolved that they would learn from the mistakes of the past. And then gas prices went up by 10 cents a gallon and all they had learnt was lost.

retired_huseyinek

Liberal center right???? I don't think a true liberal is any side of right? Maybe center left.

And I prefer Yank.

retired_raistlin1979

JCB,
Pretty much.

retired_raistlin1979

gfairbairn,
JCB's point (and mine from earlier) is that "liberal" is different depending on where you are in the world. U.S. liberals would hardly qualify as centre-left liberals in Europe.