retired_jobrien

I am playing this game for very long time and best game was CM 03/04.Future versions sucks and i get disappointed every year because game is far from reality.It would be better to make game from beginning(but detailed).
I will now say what i think needs changing because your game has brought my many hours of fun,but most dont work right.So I should begin:ADVICES-1)First you should make new look for the game something like in Medal of Honor where you had interactive setup,or maybe like in MSN where you have also animated screen.
2)game should have something like radio where you could listen to Mp3-s music and where you could put in your favorite music like in GTA:San Andreas.
3)You should make that leagues are selected on some map something like google earth.Maybe some biography of clubs and who were their famous players and managers.
4)Then when you came in the club you should first hire your assistant manager and coaches,physio,and make schedule
for friendly games like in Total club manager.Set up training(should be like in football manager 2005 where you could put in pig in the middle ......etc.)
5)When the season is over(winter,Summer)I should be able to make arrangements for training camps where my team could regain strength and where could play also friendly games.
6)In the game should be some section where you could read newspaper and hear about latest gossip about transfers
of players and trainers.Hire some journalist to make you a stories.
7)Managers are in England and nowhere else should be managers but trainers.
8)Trainers dont have anything with finances,they make list of players who they want and club should buy them if they have money.
9)Agents must transfer players and offer players to clubs.Trainers should only put players on transfer-list and
agents should soon find them a club.
10)You should make match engine like in Champions Manager 2003/2004 maybe little better.
11)When you transfer player to smaller club and bigger club shows interest he should go into this bigger club.
13)Clubs and players should be judged by its ability and not about reputation because reputation means nothing.
14)There should be some chemistry level that would show how players get on with each other.
15)Then players in one on one situation should score in most occasions.Players wit finishing above 15 should score for about 15-20 or more goals per season.There shouldnt be potential ability because any player with hard work could achieve much.Maybe less talented player in better club with good training facility could be better than more talented player in smaller club with poor training facilities.
16)You should make that clubs arent buying players in firs half of season because they dont know what players do they need(only exception should be if they dont have players to cover that position)also when some trainer sell
player he should seek for its replacement.
17)Prices of the players should be like in transfermarkt and younger players should cost higher price and older less money.It would be good if you would make that every season when you make the game you put in players that
have played in season befor for example if the version is 2008/2009 you should put players from the version 2007/2008 because in that way i could buy players that are playing in the new season and sell old ones and AI could sell old ones and buy new players because they would know how the team plays and which players need to be replaced.
18)You should make clubs budget like in real world for example Real Madrid should have 100 mil.,Arsenal 70 mil.
like in real world.Also Clubs should be able to organize youth camps anywhere in the world like Milan.
Then You should make that attributes arent displayed so that way scouts could have some sense in the game(attributes should be in the game but they shouldnt be displayed)attributes should be much higher like in Champions Manager 2008 where they are up to 100.
19)You should get out face gen because it sucks and get out shirts that are displayed in in team information screen they look so plastic and unreal also commenting the fouls and if there was penalty or nor doesnt make sense.
20)You should be able to send scout in some country and he stays there until i recall him there he is making my
scout knowledge of some country bigger and he is searching for young talents.Instead of all those youth coaches there should be only one youth director who will also seek for young players and manage young players that i have bought in the recommendation of a scout.
21)Something about clubs in the game there should be hooligans who should make mess on the game,and also there should be undisciplined players who should go in bars,pubs and make drunk,they should fight on the training with team mates,also in the team there should be clans of players who should rebel against you if you make wrong decisions,or make plot against you.Also there should be that if you are playing much games you should have tired players and if yours team moral or chemistry is low you could loose also against bad teams or even teams.
23)Bigger and richer clubs from Russia,Turkey and Ukraine should keep players,and all clubs in the game should make contract with the players who are key players and hot prospects or because they want keep them.
24)Final advice/wish is that player who is unhappy or doesnt play should be willing to be loande or transferred
to his home club or smaller or other club(like Riquelme)
I hope that you will make this wishes in football manager 2008/2009 and that you will listen because game will be better and less criticized.Thanks.

retired_kjcurnyn

Mostly gimmicks and steps backwards. There were a few decent ideas hidden inside the wall of text, but even these were more about fixing problems (like idea 23. Yes, they should keep players more. The exodus from russia and Turkey is no less than an error)...

Hooligans? Bar fights? Moving back to the CM engine/ Not being able to negotiate transfers because you are a "trainer"? (£5 says a good enough manager, used to England, could negotiate a full English manager's role abroad) Reputation means nothing? An mp3 player? (Ever heard of winamp?)

And players with 15 finishing should all score 15 more goals a season? Sheesh. Talk about realism eh? "Hey, he has decent finishing. I guess he'll score 40 premiership goals this year!"

Finishing isn't top dog with one on ones... Composure is far more important, for instance...

retired_marcwalker

Sounds like you really really should play FIFA Manager or whatever it is called now, instead of FM.

I think most of the features you want are already in that game, and if they added them to FM, it would probably ruin the game.

retired_matthowells

Seems a bit gimmicky to me. What exactly would you want in this interactive setup or animated screens?
I'll never understand why people ask for this. Why should SI waste their time adding something to the game that a) has nothing whatsoever to do with football and b) is already available for free on the internet anyway?
Though I think having something like a world map would be good, it still seems like a lot to add in, when you consider just how many teams are actually in the game. Its simply enough to have a short biography for the bigger teams, but in the lower leagues, particularly non-league teams, I'm fairly sure they don't all have individual researchers, and it would be a lot of effort gathering that much information.
Aside from specific training regimes, can't you already do this? I'm sure all coaching/scouting staff will accept mutual termination of their contract when you takeover if you offer it to them. As for the training schedules, whilst I do like being able to micro-manage like that, it'd have to be more effective and realistic than it was in FM05, whilst also having an option to keep it as it is now; I think a lot of people prefer it how it is now.
Might be a little gimmicky, but certainly wouldn't be a bad addition.
Hiring a journalist would be a terrible addition, imo. The main question I have is, why? What exactly would it add? There's already a section where you can read the latest gossip about transfers etc.
I'm afraid I don't actually know what you're talking about with this one.
I'm assuming you're referring to managing in countries like Spain, where essentially the manager just gives a list of players to the chairman/president and has nothing to do with transfer negotiations. Whilst it would be realistic, I think it would take a lot away from the game, and would put me (and a lot of other people) off managing in those leagues altogether. There is a point where FM could get TOO realistic, and I think this is past that point.
It would be nice to have more involvement from agents in the game. It'd have to be done well to make it worthwhile though, and I don't think managers should be stopped from offering their players out to clubs.
As bad as I think the match engine is in FM08, its still better than it was back then. An improvement on the match engine from 7.02 would be great, I think that's the best its been so far.
Not every player would choose the bigger club. Matt Jansen, for example, had the choice between Man Utd and Crystal Palace. He chose regular first team football at Palace. Probably a bad choice in hindsight though.
Saying reputation means nothing suggests you don't actually know that much about football. Reputation is just as important as ability.
I think there already is. Asking your assistant for advice on your team, there's a small bit that says how well the team is gelling together. It could be improved upon, however.
There's so much wrong with this point, I don't even know where to start. There's a lot more than just the finishing attribute that determines how many goals a player should score. Realistically, even the top players only score something like 1 shot in 4. I remember someone posting a statistic a year or two ago detailing the performance levels of strikers in top divisions; only Henry, Shevchenko and one other player had a conversion rate of chances to goals above 30%.

Also, how can you possibly get rid of potential ability? I could have had the best trainers in the world, I could spend all of my time simply focussing on football, and I still would never be good enough to play in the Premier League. Potential ability is how good a player could be if EVERYTHING goes right for him; it should be much harder for players to reach this ability than it is now.
Are you seriously suggesting that clubs in real life don't buy players during the summer other than to fill positions that aren't already filled??
I agree the transfer market needs a LOT of work. I'm not too sure what your last point is referring to though.
I strongly disagree that attributes shouldn't be displayed. Scouting would need far more work than anything else in the game for this to be workable at all. Its confusing enough now, with terms like "a decent signing", "a good signing" etc. Attributes are needed to make the game work imo, simple as. I hate the way CM has attributes out of 100 though, I don't think you can really make them as clear cut as that. Attributes out of 20 makes for a much more realistic game.

Transfer budgets are also determined by the researchers and not SI. I'm pretty certain Arsenal don't have a budget of £70m right now. Setting up youth camps, however, would be a good addition if its done well though.
The alternatives to facegen are even worse though. There is, at least, the option to turn off player pics, something I admit I do make use of. I fully agree with commenting on fouls though, I NEVER make any comments whatsoever. How can you tell if it was a foul or not? They're essentially dots on a pitch!
I agree it should be possible to send a scout to a country until you decide to recall him (if this isn't in the game already). There should at least be a reminder that he's there though; I know for a fact that at some point, I'd just forget I'd sent him out there at all, and there's only so many players worthy of reporting back on.

Again, suggesting that there should be one youth director instead of youth coaches suggest you know very little about football. The director that buys youth players has NOTHING to do with coaching. Having a youth director, though, would be an excellent addition to the game.
No, no, no! Having a hooligan element in the game is far too gimmicky, and is also past the point of being TOO realistic. Its not something I want in the game, and SI have said in the past its something they will never add. Players making plots against you.. you realise this is a football game, yes? Players being tired is already in the game, that's what their condition is.
To a certain extent, I agree with you. Not all players are simply concerned about money though, some do want to play in a better league, and if it means less money, they'll do it. The richer clubs from these countries should be able to buy a higher quality of players than they currently do though, and clubs not renewing key players contracts fast enough still needs work (though it has improved considerably).
Definitely agree with this. Players such as Riquelme or Saviola have been loaned out in real life, yet in FM, they would feel they are too good to be loaned out and are more likely to turn down such moves.

retired_jennwest22

if your going to make a wall of text make it readable otherwise people arnt going to read it. there is on or two gd ideas but most of it will never happen so wake up or play a differnt game.

retired_vocostoner311

You really need to go to FIFA Manager. there they have attention to these little things, but they miss the elementary basics.

FM is in comparison to FIFAM a far better game, much more realism and so. You can add little things but you may never lose the main parts. and that's exactly what they do with EA.

retired_nbackemeyer14

Dear SI,
Football is also played in Africa. It would be nice if you paid them some attention for a change.

retired_soccer07

I have read this text from Kain and hitman 47.
My opinion: Hitman`s text- great ideas, very realistic!
Kain- you obviously don`t know what is real and realistic game. this must be your first real game after Pokemon Blue. Congratulations!! Keep up the good work, but you still need to learn how to read!! (or you don`t have the money to buy the newspaper) If you know how to read you would read that Arsenal got around 70 million pounds available from the board, for transfers.
Real Madrid also!!
How can they buy that many good and expensive players if they don`t have that much money???
for me, game can`t be TOO realistic, but for you... I can get you the new version of Pokemons, do you want me to get it for you. But it is very realistic, I don`t know is your computer will be able to run the game!! sorry!!
you could be writer, because you can write a lot. but you need to work on how to write, because you have no idea how to write!!


Now, my ideas!!
(I hope they won`t be too realistic)
you should have better newspapers, not like news section, but every happening about football: for example- fans gone MAD!! or maybe -Gattuso gone injured for 3 weeks!
and then text explaining this topic (something about when the club bought him, for how many pounds...)
How could you write that player with finishing 15 couldn`t score 20 goals (for example Eduardo da Silva scored around 30 goals)-- It`s all about form, not attributes!!
If the game is realistic, how could Modric be wanted by Galatasaray, or Rapid Wiena- in real world, he is wanted by Chelsea, Real Madrid and Arsenal!??
if you declare interest in some player, the board should ask you about how much money do you need to buy this player, and give it to you.
r0x0r you have misunderstand finishing point. Hitman said that players with 15 finishing should score MORE than 15 goals per season, at least. you aren`t better than Kain at all!!

retired_matthowells

Can you provide a link showing me this £70m that Arsenal have to spend? As I don't remember Arsenal spending anywhere near that amount recently. I think if you learn to read, you'll notice I said nothing about Real Madrid in that particular paragraph.

Well played on handing out personal insults instead of pointing out what you disagree with though. And then going on to suggest rubbish ideas yourself.

The board give you a transfer budget for a reason. Perhaps you should be able to ask the board for more money for a specific player, but the board should never come to you giving money for the specific player.
Should it not be a combination of the two? Being more weighted towards attributes than form/morale imo.

retired_aries

*Sigh*

Alot of people clearly don't understand what the FM series is about and continually make "suggestions" which emulate asoects of games made by other companies!!

I am pleased with the way the FM series has developed over the years. I'm not interested in the shiny graphics and twinkly "features" you see in games like FIFA or similar.

Yes I have played these games before and yes, I did like some of the features that you've mentioned, but soon often got bored with them. Gimmicks is not the way forward for the FM series and I can quite honestly say, if that's the way they did go, being similar to FIFA, TCM, etc... I'm afraid I would no longer be buying it.

I feel that changes SI have implemented have been genuine "improvements" to their game. Why should they push out a "clone" of someone else's product, when clearly - if you look at the games charts annually - they have the best selling product.

Posts such as this for me, are clearly in the minority and although all input is useful, if constructive, perhaps more thought should go into why SI make the FM series the way they do