Reserves in cupmatches - realistic?

retired_yolanda · 08-03-2006, 09:08 PM

Ok, you stick to your oppinion and I'll stick to mine

KingsbayYHPE · 08-03-2006, 09:11 PM

Opinions are fine when they're thought out, reasoned and considered

Look at the figures (from a post in Eidos LLM):

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Sorry James, I must have gone to bed soon after you posted.

A small team can make big money from Cups, of that there's no doubt - I'll give you that.

However, I must have played literally over a hundred seasons in the Conference and Division 3 and have drawn ManUre away three times (they're the golden egg, right?). I must have done equally as many seasons in the Scottish League (money's really tight in Scotland) and have drawn Rangers away twice and never drawn Celtic at Celtic Park).

Conversely I've lost countless players for our next League game through injury or pure lack of fitness, on the occasion you do manage to beat Coventry at Highfield Road the AI punishes you for several games after it.

I've mentioned the figures before, but I'll do it again.

Before ManUre enter the FA Cup in the 3rd round there's been the potential of 6 cup ties, including replays, before you get to the draw (don't know about you but I seem to be guaranteed quite a few replays in the FA Cup)

There's 64 Clubs in the 3rd round draw, each of which can draw to play either home or away (obviously your Club doesn't count) so you're looking for one specific draw (ManUre at Old Trafford) for your fiscal gamble to pay off, that's a 126/1 shot.

The odds get better in the 4th round (potentially 8 games played now) where you have a 62/1 shot of drawing them away

5th round 30/1, 14/1 for the 6th, hell it's only when you get to the semi final that the odds are worth it, and then you want to miss them for the final where you'll be guaranteed a European place.

Promotion every time, that's where the increase in reputation, and eventually money, lies.

Cups, irrefutably, suck @ss so hard they could produce the vacuum needed to empty Lake Windermere.

retired_rwarner1 · 08-03-2006, 09:16 PM

Thats a decent reasoned opinion.

The effects of a couple of cup matches were heavy to me last season, so i was doubting wether i could chose to "skip" the cup.

retired_yolanda · 08-03-2006, 09:18 PM

I base my oppinionon on my own experience, cupgame win money has saved me from bancruptcy and xure comes in very handy, even if it's not that much.

have never suffered in the league because of cups (but that's probably because i'm so crap it can't get worse

).

KingsbayYHPE · 08-03-2006, 09:29 PM

Wouter, I wouldn't go so far as to say "play reserves", although I've played only reserves and youths in the crappy cups (FA Trophy, Vans Trophy, Challenge Cup) and "weaker" teams in the League Cups and FA Cup (in that I see who we play in the following game and decide based on that how strong a team I'll play), but I will never compromise my league position by playing a full-strength squad when it could.

Gil, ask the Board to upgrade the stadium, or upgrade the training facilities and they tell you to mind the playing side and they'll manage the money.

Let them manage the money, then. They're always happy enough when you're promoted

retired_dvrsecuritylab · 08-03-2006, 09:34 PM

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on the occasion you do manage to beat Coventry at Highfield Road the AI punishes you for several games after it.

I have to echo this sentiment in particular. The one decent cup run I've had cost me promotion from the Conference. Not through injury so much, but from a combination of exhaustion and lack of motivation in between every round after the 2nd.

It did earn me a load of money and I got promoted the following season, but as Hogie will attest, making money's not much of a problem once you get into the league proper.

Therefore, I'm with Ian - promotion > cup run.

retired_yolanda · 08-03-2006, 09:59 PM

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promotion > cup run.

That's absolutely valid! I'm not saying cups > league, or something like that. I just want to say that in my oppinion cups can come in handy, and that they do not suck so much as some thinnk

retired_steffani · 08-03-2006, 10:21 PM

hold on a minute....there was a valid post in Eidos LLM :O why was i not informed

martinnn · 08-03-2006, 10:36 PM

I don't know the odds, but in a CM 00-01 game, managing Nuneaton in the Conference, I got to the third round and drew Arsenal away, then bought two key players with the proceeds from the flogging we took. So it worked that time.

I'm just a competitive cuss and I try to win any competition I'm in. I realize it's not always wise, though.

I do think an iron-clad rule is overstating it. What if you've got a chance to win the Conference Cup or the FA Trophy and you're 11th in the table and you're obviously not going up or down? It's somethingto play for.

retired_yolanda · 08-03-2006, 10:39 PM

ofbg put my oppinion in much better words :thup:

Reserves in cupmatches - realistic?

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