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(disproved on page 2) Finaly proved it, the game engine is bogus
I often wonder what kind of a result would provide moving players between clubs with the data editor.
So I set off hoping I would prove my own expectations to be wrong, but unfortunately I was right, the game engine is bogus or seriously flawed.
I opened the data editor, and moved all the players from the Chelsea squad that had the current ability equal or above of 80 (range is 1 -200) to Millwall, gave Chelsea only 1 M cash and a 30 M dept, stripped roman abramovices resources to 5. However chelsea managed to buy two players.
Chelsea squad end season:
Chelsea transfers:
Millwall squad end season:
So here are the results of my test:
End Season Premier Division:
End Season Coca-Cola league 1:
Now as you can see in the pictures Chelsea did not only survive in the Premiership, it even ended up in 15 place above clubs with significantly better players with only -6 goal difference. Amazing isn't it those managers at Chelsea do miracles (Mourihno got fired half season).
If you look at the Millwall result you will see that the Chelsea super players now in Millwall squad did not have such a perfect season in the Coca cola League 2 (2 divisions under Premiership) wining in around 50% of the games. In a league where they should be able to run circles around all the players, since they are a class or two above all other players.
Quite interesting isn't it?
But wait that is not it, Chelsea even managed to get to the Championship League Semi Finals. Yes that is right the Chelsea squad consisting of young players with the ability of only 80, have managed to beat the likes of Arsenal, Barcelona, Lyon, Werder and etc.
Here it is:
Stages
First knockout:
Quater:
Semi:
Remarkable success for Chelsea isn't it?
And let's look at the two top players of the Chelsea squad:
Great goal scoring with so low attributes right?
I only wonder what I could against such incredible managers the SI put into this game.
Thank you SI for this game engine it is absolutely brilliant, it produces such wonderful results for the AI.
Finaly I can say it's not me, it's not my tactics it the game, thank you very much.
PS. I have the save game, the database used to create this so if anyone disbelieves me, I will be more than glad to upload it.
12-25-2007, 02:26 AM
(disproved on page 2) Finaly proved it, the game engine is bogus Post #2
I often wonder what kind of a result would provide moving players between clubs with the data editor.
So I set off hoping I would prove my own expectations to be wrong, but unfortunately I was right, the game engine is bogus or seriously flawed.
I opened the data editor, and moved all the players from the Chelsea squad that had the current ability equal or above of 80 (range is 1 -200) to Millwall, gave Chelsea only 1 M cash and a 30 M dept, stripped roman abramovices resources to 5. However chelsea managed to buy two players.
Now as you can see in the pictures Chelsea did not only survive in the Premiership, it even ended up in 15 place above clubs with significantly better players with only -6 goal difference. Amazing isn't it those managers at Chelsea do miracles (Mourihno got fired half season).
If you look at the Millwall result you will see that the Chelsea super players now in Millwall squad did not have such a perfect season in the Coca cola League 2 (2 divisions under Premiership) wining in around 50% of the games. In a league where they should be able to run circles around all the players, since they are a class or two above all other players.
Quite interesting isn't it?
But wait that is not it, Chelsea even managed to get to the Championship League Semi Finals. Yes that is right the Chelsea squad consisting of young players with the ability of only 80, have managed to beat the likes of Arsenal, Barcelona, Lyon, Werder and etc.
I often wonder what kind of a result would provide moving players between clubs with the data editor.
So I set off hoping I would prove my own expectations to be wrong, but unfortunately I was right, the game engine is bogus or seriously flawed.
I opened the data editor, and moved all the players from the Chelsea squad that had the current ability equal or above of 80 (range is 1 -200) to Millwall, gave Chelsea only 1 M cash and a 30 M dept, stripped roman abramovices resources to 5. However chelsea managed to buy two players.
Now as you can see in the pictures Chelsea did not only survive in the Premiership, it even ended up in 15 place above clubs with significantly better players with only -6 goal difference. Amazing isn't it those managers at Chelsea do miracles (Mourihno got fired half season).
If you look at the Millwall result you will see that the Chelsea super players now in Millwall squad did not have such a perfect season in the Coca cola League 2 (2 divisions under Premiership) wining in around 50% of the games. In a league where they should be able to run circles around all the players, since they are a class or two above all other players.
Quite interesting isn't it?
But wait that is not it, Chelsea even managed to get to the Championship League Semi Finals. Yes that is right the Chelsea squad consisting of young players with the ability of only 80, have managed to beat the likes of Arsenal, Barcelona, Lyon, Werder and etc.
Originally posted by Jimbokav1971:
<BLOCKQUOTE>I opened the data editor, and moved all the players from the Chelsea squad that had the current ability equal or above of 80 (range is 1 -200)
Can you explain that please.
If the range is 1 to -200, how do you move players above 80 ? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Sorry if I was not very coherent, but I was writing the post at 2:30 in the morning.
I mean i moved all the players from the Chelsea squad that have the current ability attribute above or equal of 80 (the current ability attriute can be between min. 1 and max. 200) to Millwall.
12-25-2007, 10:22 AM
(disproved on page 2) Finaly proved it, the game engine is bogus Post #8
Originally posted by DeadZone:
Yea, I have a feeling Club rep might have something to do with it
Perhaps you should try swapping the reputations around, and see what results you get
Actually I don't give a crap why this is like it is, and what SI did with the game engine, I just wanted to show that the game engine is rigged.
Your point is right that it seams that the engine relies on the rep of the clubs to even things out.
I would like to hear a official comment from SI on this kind of game behavior.
The funny thing is that in the Coca cola league 1, Dider Drogba managed to score only 30 goals in 55 games of he played in the season, and Chech managed to coneced 53. WTF??????
12-25-2007, 10:39 AM
(disproved on page 2) Finaly proved it, the game engine is bogus Post #10
You haven't proved that the match engine is bogus at all.
You have proved that the results that can be achieved by use of the editor are strange. There are too many variables invilved for you to say with any certaintly that the match engine is responsible, (although it would certainly seem to suggest it).
Other factors, (just off the top of my head) that might be influencing this are, standard of training facilities, standard of coaching staff, hidden attributes making "stars" perform below acceptable levels and making "youngsters" overperform.
It is pretty naive of you to ignore all these other factors and concentrate solely on the one are that you wish to. The game isn't that simple unfortunately.
Well done though, you have certainly raised some excellent questions, just don't be too quick to jump to a poorly thought out conclusion.
As for a respomnse from SI, I would hope that you would get one too, but remember that it is Christmas Day and they all have families and lifes of their own too.
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