DS

Ok i will start a new game with the same database, and put it in full detail, for england and the continental competitions. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Good. I am confident that you will find that realistic results occur like this. Well reasonably realistic results at least. Then we would have shown that the problem is with the simulation of no detail games

arfaern

But what does that mean, that you should watch all the games of your competitors to get the accurate results?

Or that teams like Chelsea can do significantly better than you with players with lower attributes just because they have a better reputation??

Thats BS.

DS

yes its obviously a game flaw. But thats why the game forces you to run the games in detail that are in a competition you are part of. So if you are managing an EPL team all EPL matches are run in detail automatically so you get realistic results. But still a huge flaw in the game that non detail games are complete BS.

arfaern

That's the spirit :thup:.

None of the "I don't care" malarkey .

If you didn't care you wouldn't be posting about it on Christams Day.

Merry Christmas . </BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course I care because this is my favorite game, and apart from tetris is the game i played most, and I am playing it for the last 10 or so years, and I will keep playing, but SI will have to change something to keep me buying the FM 2009.

arfaern

So ok I rerun the game with full detail on English competitions and European competitions.

The amazing thing is that Chelsea managed a 13th place in the Premiership, and a quarter final of the Championship League.

So the result are the more or less the same as with the game run without full detail.

So it is not in the detail level of the matches.

DS

Wow, that was quicker then I thought. So it is a bit better but also the manager comes into play in this. But it is still unrealistic. Hopefully SI will see this thread.

Jimbokav1971

arfaern. If you've got some time on your hands, perhaps you could keep running the experiment and change some of the other variables one by one.

Maybe you could swap the training facilities in one.

Maybe you could swap the coaching setup/manager in one.

Maybe you could swap the club reputations in another.

Not sure about other variables.

Then this will sort of narrow what might be affecting this.

SkidRo

it is true that good teams tend to underperform in leagues run with no detail in my current game arsenal finished 6th and i run that league with no detail. so it goes to show even some teams that have great squads still perform crap. oh yeh and inter milan didnt even make champions league thats how **** ther performed in italy - also run in no detail.

arfaern

Ha this is complete BS.

Set the reputation of Chelsea squad from 9500 to 1000, and now amazingly they finnish last in the premiership and lose all their games in Championship Leauge goal difference 0-13.

Now I would like to ask SI what has the reputation of the club to do with the result of their games??

alutac13

I am not too suprised that they finished 15th with rubbish players. The match engine is seriously biased against certain formations/tactics so those managers that used those will lose most of the time no matter how much better there players are. for example Pourtsmouth who were european contenders for 3 season straight are now in the relegation zone thanks to using a 3-5-2 formation.