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Old 07-04-2007, 07:41 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #21
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Just two minutes and 21 seconds later, i'm losing 2-1 and notice that they have only had one shot on target yet have scored two goals!.

Even had i got the switch wrong(which i did'nt and will show you), surely its a bit steep to be suddenly 2-1 down within 2 minutes of the restart, when the opposition had'nt even turned up first half?.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:47 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #22
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Now, they did'nt change, so i did'nt change, so in conclusion, my earlier switch clearly stood up to the AI switch, yet somehow it cost me two goals even though they had just the one shot on target.

Comprende?.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:50 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #23
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Half time second leg and as you can see, its been more or less one way traffic.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:52 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #24
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They switch at half time so i make my own nessasary switch and we're comfortable at 2-0.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:05 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #25
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Heerenveen then go all out attack shooting from all angles and manage 5 more shots with 2 on target and manage to score them both?.

I had switched to "shut up shop" of course, which usually will see a game out comfortably, off course that is unless the AI decides differently!.

So as you can see, we had 33 shots and 14 on target over the two legs, whilst Heereveen had half as many overall shots and just 4 on target, yet they managed a goal per shot on target AND remember there is a massive gulf in player quality to take into consideration too!.

This is at the start of my second season and by no means a one off!. This sort of thing is rife throughout the game and is why i will continue to pledge that this game needs a complete overhaul, as right now it is simply awful!.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:06 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #26
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I take it English is not your 1st language mate?.
Shamefully, it is, although obviously typing is not among my top skills today.

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What i'm saying(and i'm sure most people got it the first time ), is that however good your tactics are the AI simply overides them whenever it pleases.
Right. I got that. It doesn't make any sense. The AI doesn't 'please' to do anything. It's a computer program. Either it cheats every game, in which case your tactics should never work, or it doesn't cheat at all.

Can you really not see the problem with arguing that "I have this great set of tactics that lets me beat the AI, except that the AI cheats and tactics don't mean anything"?

If you were able to show that the AI doesn't 'let' you win the League with teams that *should* win it, then you'd have something. But all you've shown is that despite your best tactical efforts - evidently very good - while you could overachieve (major accomplishment!) you weren't guaranteed a victory.

It sounds like you're really complaining that the AI adjusted to your tactics, more than anything.

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Right, CL qualifier and i'm comfortable at 2-0. Heereveen have'nt even had a shot on target so they switch formation. I do the same to counteract their next formation o.k.?.
No you're not. You're comfortable at 1-0.

I have no idea what you're trying to show with that blizzard of screenshots, but they prove exactly nothing.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:25 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #27
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Hammer1000:
I take it English is not your 1st language mate?.
Shamefully, it is, although obviously typing is not among my top skills today.

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What i'm saying(and i'm sure most people got it the first time ), is that however good your tactics are the AI simply overides them whenever it pleases.
Right. I got that. It doesn't make any sense. The AI doesn't 'please' to do anything. It's a computer program. Either it cheats every game, in which case your tactics should never work, or it doesn't cheat at all.

Can you really not see the problem with arguing that "I have this great set of tactics that lets me beat the AI, except that the AI cheats and tactics don't mean anything"?

If you were able to show that the AI doesn't 'let' you win the League with teams that *should* win it, then you'd have something. But all you've shown is that despite your best tactical efforts - evidently very good - while you could overachieve (major accomplishment!) you weren't guaranteed a victory.

It sounds like you're really complaining that the AI adjusted to your tactics, more than anything.

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Right, CL qualifier and i'm comfortable at 2-0. Heereveen have'nt even had a shot on target so they switch formation. I do the same to counteract their next formation o.k.?.
No you're not. You're comfortable at 1-0.

I have no idea what you're trying to show with that blizzard of screenshots, but they prove exactly nothing. </BLOCKQUOTE>

If you cannot see what the screenshots show, the i'd suggest an immediate trip to Specsavers!.

Of course the AI cant cheat "every game", because quite simply there would be absolutely no point in installing it and EVERYONE would have stopped playing by now!.

I have a few friends who know a thing or two about games and coding and stuff(as you can tell i know **** all ) and they have suggested that such an inclusion in the coding would be relatively simple to put in!.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:38 PM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #28
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Ok then. Why wouldn't SI have said long ago that the cheat was in? 'Yeah, the AI can't really cope with a good human player, so we gave it a couple of advantages so the game would stay competitive'.

Lots of game companies do that, and admit it freely.

SI says there is no cheat.

I'm not saying the game is without flaws. I've made numerous posts where I point out how things could be done better. But the argument that the AI cheats is ridiculous, and your screenshots, alas, are proof of nothing at all.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:19 AM   Why This Game Needs A Complete Overhaul!. Post #29
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I think that screenshots proof a lot.
And I think that AI cheat some games.
I have one tactics with witch I have won 10 games in a row and haven't lost a game for three months, and than suddenly my players couldn't score any more and AI scored in one shot or I scored auto goals.

I now play sets of tactics fro instructions of WWFan and it is much harder and ai can cheat as much as it wants cause you newer know.

I don't like to have supertactics but I don't like it these way to cause I play better every game and still loosing, especially away games.
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Ok then. Why wouldn't SI have said long ago that the cheat was in? 'Yeah, the AI can't really cope with a good human player, so we gave it a couple of advantages so the game would stay competitive'.

Lots of game companies do that, and admit it freely.

SI says there is no cheat.

I'm not saying the game is without flaws. I've made numerous posts where I point out how things could be done better. But the argument that the AI cheats is ridiculous, and your screenshots, alas, are proof of nothing at all.
In all seriousness mate, if SI admitted to these flaws then they would simply NEVER sell another copy of their game!.

Good reason not to come clean?.
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