retired_isooze

I have searched the tactical forum and not managed to find an answer to my question, so thought I would post it here ...

I was doing a bit of light reading today of the FM07 manual and notice that player roles, such as playmaker and targetman, will be set automatically if not selected by the user - this is my understanding of it anyway.

Last season, I had a terrible run of games and realised that the trouble was with my main striker. He was going up for 20odd headers a game - the trouble being that with 10 for jumping he was losing nearly every one of them!
I had a look on the 'targetman window' and realised that I had not dragged any player into it. So I presume the game had automatically selected the aforementioned useless striker as my target man?

Despite this, I have never ticked the 'use playmaker', and only rarely tick the 'use target man' settings on team instructions.
Furthermore, I have never dragged a playmaker into the 'playmaker window' and so I presume that the game has always automatically picked one of my players as the playmaker?

In summary, I suppose what I am trying to ascertain is, should you still set a playmaker and targetman even if not ticking the associated team instructions?

Through pure ritual, I used to place a player in the targetman window, with the team instruction unticked, and I'm sure I noticed that players would hoof it up to him more often. In particular, I thought that the keeper, when set to long-kicks, seemed to try and pick him out. I was sure it was my imagination though!

Can anyone confirm my thoughts on this? Grateful for any guidance on this as the manual seems a bit vague and previous discussion on the forum is a bit ambiguous.

C.

retired_isooze

Not wishing to sound like I have a low level of patience... but... doesn't anyone have any ideas or advice about this aspect of training?

Cheers,
C.

retired_isooze

I meant 'doesn't anyone have any ideas or advice on this aspect of TACTICS'?

Apologies! :o

C.

retired_uhmanduhhx33

I think this only applies if you tick use target man or use playmaker without choosing who you want. You'll see the same thing happen with corner takers etc, if you don't pick any then the game picks whoever has the highest rating.

That's my understanding of it anyway.

retired_isooze

cjthompson, that's what I thought originally. However, it seems to me that the target man choice DOES make a difference.

My bad run of form appeared to be down to the fact that my team were hitting the wrong striker with through balls in the air. Once I set my target man (not ticking the associated box), it appeared to make a massive difference, with the team aiming to bring him into the game and him winning more headers.

Like I said in my opening post, I used to place a player in the targetman window through pure ritual, althought I always left the team instruction unticked. Thinking back, I'm sure I noticed that the rest of the team seemed to try and pick him out.

Has anyone else had this experience?

retired_e_fores

The problem is probably that your team (particularly defenders) does not feel it has any good passing options, so has no choice but to bel it up to your striker who can't jump for love nor money. Perhaps too many forward runs on your midfielders? TTB's too high on defenders? Is your game too direct?

retired_isooze

Moggydave, I am outclassed in my division and therefore I am playing a deep, direct counter-attacking formation..

It's true that my keeper / defenders often hoof it up to my striker, which is not the issue. I am quite happy for them to do that. However, they were picking out the wrong striker.

What I am trying to ascertain is whether this has anything to do with the target man role - did the game automatically select the useless striker as my target man? In which case, it seems to me that you need to set the target man and playmaker roles, even if you're not intending to tick the related team instruction.
In addition to this, I notice that you can set your wingers to aim crosses to a target man, in which case it seems you need to let your team know who your target man is, even if you're not intending to use the target man option? Clear as mud? I thought so.

Can anyone clarify this? Grateful for any response.

retired_isooze

Does anyone have any input as to how these player roles work? I would be grateful for any discussion about this.

C.

retired_cindymerc

your right crouchaldinho it does make a difference. Even with the use target man or playmaker not ticked your team is affected by who you choose. For example I play as Arsenal atm and i choos fabregas as playmaker but i dont tick use playmaker, on the stats screen he receives more passes than anyone else.

Same with target man, they contest much more headers if use a a striker for the target man box.Alternatively you could set target man supply to feet,again even without using target man options this maeks a difference.

Hope this helps.

retired_isooze

Thanks a lot Badboy, I appreciate your input.
I've been experimenting and it does seem to me that you need to set the player roles, even if you're not using the option on the team instruction screen. Like you say, selecting a target man seems to result in him going for more headers. I haen't noticed much difference with the playmaker selection however.

C.