retired_dego72

Disagree with the OP, as I believe Paul C when he says this is not true- but theres no question that at times it certainly feels as if there is an artificial limiting system in place to keep scores within realistic levels.

retired_catj010

So your point is to have fun with the game, we have to go on the internet and search up threads?

They just need to fix the damn game so it works properly.

retired_srini_aug1

So your point is to have fun with the game, we have to go on the internet and search up threads?

They just need to fix the damn game so it works properly. </BLOCKQUOTE>

he claimed team talks make no difference which is incorrect, find the thread i mentioned and it will show the effects of teamtalks under different conditions.

as for the tactics, they do make a difference, and yes the game should be easier to interpret what makes a good tactic rather than the hit and miss that it is now. But they do make a difference to outcomes, which the op claimed didnt.

purejunie

The game is "rigged" but the result is not pre determined.

If it was not "rigged" Man U with a CA of say 2000 would win all games and the PL.

The "rigging" should appear realistic and provide the Giant killing or late goals aspect of game.

IMO the "rigging" in FM08 is not as realistic as it should be, and 424 should be banned.

Team talks - played 1/4 PL season with no team talks - Morale superb - most reaction is to high bonus.

Also played Robbie Keane as GK and Robinson as striker - try it yourself!

purejunie

Teamtalks

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...7/m/1172031963

Fitness Matt

1. All cats have four legs.

2. my dog has four legs.

3. Therefore, my dog is a cat.

4. The above has been rigged and is pre-determined.

QED.

retired_gblowndes

In my eyes, the answer to our problems lies neither with the believers in a pre-determined game, nor with the believers in a "tactics fix everything" mantra. In fact, I'm beginning to believe that the harsh division on this website is detrimental to anybody's enjoyment of the game. Both sides need to have the balls to step into the other's shoes and try and understand the argument from an unbiased point of view. Posts like giblet_of_fire's and psychocandy's contribute nothing and ought to be dealt with more harshly by the admin and moderators here. Instead of posting a smart-ass comment, at least try and understand the situation at hand: the OP has posted some clear reasons on why he believes this game is rigged. It's actually very simple to offer constructive feedback consisting of a response which is consisting of a clear and though-out counter-argument/agreement.

I'm not fully inclined to side with either team here, but the one piece of advice I have to add is this: FM 2008 is a video-game and should be treated as such. It is a wonderful attempt at simulating a complicated game. The progress that has been made year to year has not always been extraordinary, but nor has it been damaging to the series. Every year is a new year, and with the coming of FM09 next year, we all have reason to hope. In the mean time, lets all band together, dispose of the division that has come between fellow gamers, and vow to find a solution to our problems.

retired_judith

right...(or_become_a) tactics do make a visible difference if you watch the game,although i accept it's not flawless. if you pick say peter crouch as a target man and aim crosses to him, you can see this happens in the engine,focus passing, again it goes generally where you want it to. and last minute goals do in reality tend to go to the better side,look at today newcastle and man u both scored late on against inferior sides.
secondly (carlos 1879)i highly doubt that your goalkeeper conceeded 5 goals and got a rating of 8 as you claim, and the defensive thing- individual player settings overule team settings, for example if you have your full backs set to attacking or "forward" for corners they will still do this irrespective of what you tell the team to do as a whole.
and finally (knap) i just played marcus bent in goal against blackburn, i lost 8-1 at home(good job i saved it first), so that one's ******** too.
thing that annoys me is going to places like stamford bridge/old trafford and knowing you've lost before you start, but i'm afraid that's just the nature of football these days

retired_jkopcak

Not deleted yet. Why do you think that is?