retired_handymanjohn

Ok,My first reason on i dunwanna use Sweeper is i dun like 2 striker,and 3 defender,
coz i like Man Mark,u got enough DM,ur defender are man mark,u wont lost goal actually,unless mistake comes out,then..thank god..

Second,not many Sweeper in the game,and i dunno wat the stat requirement for them..hehe

retired_johncorle

Who's the best sweeper in the game?

retired_thehpsleb

Jaap Stam or Roberto Ayala..maybe Vidic.

retired_virginialaitano

i love jaap : )

i try to implement the sweeper system in my 343 like this

2 dc with sarrows, sweeper behind and a dmc infront with a barrow.

ussualy let my dmc man mark someone out of the game and the sweeper gets a free role to join in on the attack.

the 2 dc's get manmarking when the opposition plays with 2 top strikers.

At first i regretted not having full backs that can join in on the attack but having 2 real wingers covers the flanks also the fullbacks would just limit there dribling space. When needed my 2 center midfielders or the amc comes to the side to provide a passing option.

i do have to say that a formation that uses real wingers or a long farrowed 442 gives me trouble on the flanks. Luckily i have jaap and vermaelen to take out any crosses that do come in

you do need top players for this to work though

retired_queenjulie

How would you use a sweeper in a back four for 442 formation as i have two dellas and filipescu..

retired_chink

(disclasimer about spelling: im typin one handed cos my son is a sleep on the other)
ive just started with a sweeper system
2 CD and Sweeper pushed to DM workin well. he is captain sergey ignashevich. two WB pushed fwd. 2 CM one A< free role and 2 strikers. Will post later to see how it goes just hammered a club 9-0 with leicester

retired_kellyk

The same way they've set it up but because you have no fullbacks to carry the ball up you need to make sure that the midfielders do most of the crossing and creating of chances. Having 4 at the back playing in a sweeper styled back 4 is tougher to break down than a regular 4..i would think

retired_annnzzz

Interesting thread. Im a big fan of the sweeper system, and have toiled through many an FM edition to incorporate this ploy in my strategy. Where i have found defensive solidarity, allbeit unintentionally, my deliberate attempts to resucitate the 'Libero' of old and have a sweeper rampaging from the back into the midfield have all been thwarted by an AI that seems impervious to such 'liberty'.

...I've tried all the necessaries, but to no avail. Anyone stumbled upon a solution?

retired_katrinajones

I certainly haven't had my sweeper - or my DCs - doing any rampaging, but then I try to keep them back so my WBs can get right up the field (so good when one of them crosses to the far post and the other one puts it in!).

My sweeper system is pretty solid and I'm conceding about 0.5 goals a game. I'm using Inter because they have good sweepers and wingbacks, so it's not as much of an achievement, but I don't find it that easy to set up a good defence with any team tbh!

Anyway, I have a SW, DCs with sarrows and WBs with farrows at home, no arrows away.

At home the back three have mentality 7, with the sweeper having CD 3 and DCs 13. Away this is the same except that the DCs' closing down is reduced to 11. Creative freedom is 5 and the DCs tight mark.

I've actually found that if I have to play Materazzi, who's now 35 and has pace 8, acc 7, then he's better as the sweeper - which goes against the idea that the sweeper should be the pacy one. Ideally they'd all be pacy, of course, but I think setting someone slow to close down is a bad idea, while setting someone slow to sweep can work so long as they have good mental stats (incl. esp. positioning and anticipation).

burntmonkey

Is this even possible? I know you can do it on team tactics, I didn't think it was possible for individual players.