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Old 11-20-2006, 09:56 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #11
 
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The main reason i don't use sweepers is because if i do, then i have to use no full backs or 1 striker (unless if i use 1 central defender). I don't like this so i don't play like that. Any solutions though?
Solution might be:

===FC==FC===
=====AM=====
ML========MR
=====DM=====
===CB==CB===
=====SW=====
=====GK=====

Will leave a lot of space on the flanks though, might work if you put your DC's on very high closing down..
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:57 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #12
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Originally posted by Arthur Li:
The main reason i don't use sweepers is because if i do, then i have to use no full backs or 1 striker (unless if i use 1 central defender). I don't like this so i don't play like that. Any solutions though?
Using 1 central defender and a sweeper in a back 4 can work pretty decent.

If you don't use fullbacks thats means you can have more license in the tactci you are creating.
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:57 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #13
 
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Forget about that one, it only has 10 players :p
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:58 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #14
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Arthur Li:
The main reason i don't use sweepers is because if i do, then i have to use no full backs or 1 striker (unless if i use 1 central defender). I don't like this so i don't play like that. Any solutions though?
Solution might be:

===FC==FC===
=====AM=====
ML========MR
=====DM=====
===CB==CB===
=====SW=====
=====GK=====

Will leave a lot of space on the flanks though, might work if you put your DC's on very high closing down.. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Only 10 players?

he could barrows the wingers btw to cover the flanks.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:00 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #15
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I tried the sweeper system in 1 game for my Derby but didn't really like what I saw. I am going to try a flat 4 defensive formation with 1 DC(Araujo) running down to SW role.. will report back.

Didn't like the DCs going to the full back positions cause I employ a DMC in the tactic. This makes a vertical line. The DMC, DC and SW. AI have been exploiting this by running through the gaps cause the defence doesnt cover every inch of the field.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:00 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #16
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Arthur Li:
The main reason i don't use sweepers is because if i do, then i have to use no full backs or 1 striker (unless if i use 1 central defender). I don't like this so i don't play like that. Any solutions though?
Using 1 central defender and a sweeper in a back 4 can work pretty decent.

If you don't use fullbacks thats means you can have more license in the tactci you are creating. </BLOCKQUOTE>

What does it mean by have more lisence?
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:04 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #17
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Originally posted by Cleon:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Arthur Li:
The main reason i don't use sweepers is because if i do, then i have to use no full backs or 1 striker (unless if i use 1 central defender). I don't like this so i don't play like that. Any solutions though?
Using 1 central defender and a sweeper in a back 4 can work pretty decent.

If you don't use fullbacks thats means you can have more license in the tactci you are creating. </BLOCKQUOTE>

And you do not need to use a DM
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:10 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #18
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I tried the sweeper system in 1 game for my Derby but didn't really like what I saw. I am going to try a flat 4 defensive formation with 1 DC(Araujo) running down to SW role.. will report back.
It takes time and persiverant to get it right. You can't expect to get the instructiosn right in the first game.

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Didn't like the DCs going to the full back positions cause I employ a DMC in the tactic. This makes a vertical line
You shouldn't get any problems if you use a DMC playing like this. The DMC should be really effective and mop up most balls before they even get to the defence.

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The DMC, DC and SW. AI have been exploiting this by running through the gaps cause the defence doesnt cover every inch of the field.
This shape should cover every inch of the field. If you had gaps it could be 2 things for me imo, either closing down or the mentality between the players.

Sort that out and you cover every inch of the pitch from a defensive point.

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What does it mean by have more lisence?
Means you 1 extra player to use. If you use a back4 it limits you and the formations you can use. They all tend to look the same after a while. Where as using a back 3 gives you more players to use further up the pitch and allowing more options.


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And you do not need to use a DM
Yeah, its something I do from time to time.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:21 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #19
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I've never fancied a sweeper. Relying on one guy at the back is not good in my view. I might as well play with 2 defensive midfielders with a centre back behind them.
You don't rely on one man though

Playing 2 defensive mids doesn't give the same effect I feel, as they will be prone to balls played over the top, especially diagnol ones
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:24 AM   Lets Discuss Sweepers Post #20
 
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Cleon, as soon as I have got my 4-3-3 to work, I'll try to implement a sweeper system in it. I think the wingbaks would get me some real good extra crosses in. Right now, I have a 'promising sweeper' in my u18 squad, I'm just not sure how good a promising player may become, I hope anyone knows more about this. I'm not waiting for a "160-200 PA" kind of answer, just "not really good" or "will probably make it" will do

Sorry for going a bit off-topic.
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