retired_abcs2904

I am buying a lot of young players (cos i am broke) but i read somewhere that an attribute can only be increased by a maximum of 3 or 4 in a players career, i.e. Shooting = 9, maximum ever will be 12/13.

Is this true?

Can you say buy a player with lots of tens and turn those tens into 16s or 18 etc?

Would really appreciate some feedback as it the maximum increase is 3 or 4, it would really change my outlook on the game!!

waterwolf

i guess the main factor is their potential ability. if its high, then theyre likely to increase their stats more. if its low, they'll only go up by a couple

and i think you can increase some stats at a higher rate if you give intensive training in that area, but this will obviously reduce the increase in other stats

psychodad13th

There isn't any maximum limit as to how much an attribute may increase. I've seen cases where an attribute have gone up by more than 10 points, but then it's usually a physical one like stamina or a mental one like influence or determination (through tution).

However, when I sign a player aroung 19-20 whose CA is "some way off whoever's ability" but with a PA to "be a lot better than whoever" I expect him to improve quite a bit statswise.

This rarely seem to happen though and I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with the training. I always though that more intensive training gets you better results with a bigger risk of injuries, unless your players protest about the workload. Now I'm not so sure about this anymore and it seems that top AI teams seem to be able to develop their young players better than me. I'm really in the dark here and it's too timeconsuming to conduct experiments using different approaches.

A question: Does the hidden attributes improve much by age?

psychodad13th

I'm somewhat doubtful about this. I've tried many times to put a player with a serious flaw on intensive training to correct it. I can't remember it ever working very well unless the player was predisposed to improve in that area, in which case the increase would've happened in any case, possibly at a slightly smaller rate.

Dav1d

I believe a stat can go up by 5 points, I may be wrong.

retired_rosie

1st, If you have rubbish coaches, there are not going to get the best out of your young talant.

2nd, try get as many coaches as possible with 15+ coaching with youngsters, determination and man management.

Good luck.

retired_anthonyc

i am in my third season of a game and my players ttributes might go up 2 or 3 but then always come back down and level off around where they were to begin with. this means that they are not improving.(some of these are players i created myself with PA of in the 190's).
if a players attributes can only increase by 4 or 5 its a load of balls as you know theres no point bothering with young players with less than outstanding attributes.

can anyone confirm if indeed the figures can only go up by four or five?

psychodad13th

^I can confirm that this isn't the case, attributes can evan go up by 5 points or more within a year, although it's unusual.

But as I said, I don't know how to make it happen, and there seem to be many factors to consider, such as PA, determination, traning intensity (where more isn't always better), facilities, coaches etc.

retired_rachel...duhh

It's a problem I've always had with this game. Attributes are clearly tied to PA which is fair enough. But there are cases where players in real life can genuinely improve a lot in one area. One good example is that when Wenger came to Arsenal he really improved the technique of the defenders. Adams, Keown etc. suddenly became more composed and better on the ball, passing etc.

I asked about this once before and SI gave me the answer that in such cases, those players always had the potential to be that good but I don't agree. I think AW's great coaching improved their potential (if that makes sense). Obviously in this game, PA is set and cannot change.

I think it would have been neat to come in to a club and really change the way a player plays. Physical stats obviously can't change much anyway but I think you can definitely teach the technical stats to a player.. to a certain degree.

retired_joanbkenner

I wouldn't want to overcomplicate the game, but that may be achievable by having a "retrain new style" option (similar to retraining players to a new position). The player's adaptability rating, and perhaps their relationship to the coaches and manager, would determine the success; you'd also have to take into account physical attributes not being changeable (such as turning a lumbering centre forward into a nippy striker).

Perhaps it would work by being limited to certain mental or technical attributes, such as technique or first touch, and would let you retrain by style - such as from "commanding centre-back" to "defender" (or something more descriptive).