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Old 10-27-2007, 12:23 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #11
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Mentality is not shown on the pitch. It is a mental thing. It's determines how well they interpret and respond to your instructions. I believe it has no correlation with positioning.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:25 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #12
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Mentality is NOT how often your player respond to your instructions - thats Creative freedom.
Mentality is a mental slider - what role do you give the player for the match...very simple.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:35 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #13
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Those positions were meant only as an example. I like to set team mentality to +/- 10. I like my CDs individual mentality to be +/- 4 and my FBs individuality +/-6.

As I understand it, with individual mentality over riding team mentality, it was not possible to use the team mentality slider to control the match. I would move the team mentality up or down but all my players would remain on their original settings and causing a gap to materialise when attackig.

Now, have the team and individual mentalities been "separated out", thereby allowing use of the team mentality to attack or defend as a team, whilst still allowing the individual mentalities to also remain. Meaning that there wiil not be any large gaps within the defenders, midfielders and attackers.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:42 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #14
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What are you talking about? The match engine is so random, that none of your assumption is useful. DLine and mentality doesn't affect on style of play of your team. Just luck affects.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:50 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #15
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Quite right, vril, though I can't seem to find that slider on the Tactic screen?

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

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vril, if the match engine is as random as you say it is, then if follows that it matters not whatever we try to do. Please supply the evidence for your thought provoking statement.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:54 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #17
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vril, noone will take your comments serious
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:01 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #18
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Maybe it was too ironic. But i've have no clue how exactly these sliders work.

I've tried many sets, and once it works as I assumed and once quite diffrent. So I think there is a piece of randomness in match engine.
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Originally posted by No.1Gooner:
Mentality is not shown on the pitch. It is a mental thing. It's determines how well they interpret and respond to your instructions. I believe it has no correlation with positioning.
Thats wrong

1. Mentality has a slight affect on positions with or without ball...this is fact and has been verified by SI.
2. Mentality affects decision making on the kind of passes a player will make and its mainly a risk/reward agent. The higher the mentality the more often a player will look to making a forward pass
3. Creative freedom is a slider that influences the flair attribute..the higher it is the higher you influence flair to take effect. High CF encourages players to abandon their instructions and do what they feel like. Players have been programmed to act like humans so sometimes you may find that low cf will also not work, though this is very rare.

The mentality sliders haven't changed in the way they work, except for closing down. Individual mentalities affect how far a player is likely to be from the Defensive line. So a higher mentality player on a high dline could have acres to cover before he throws in a challenge.

Individual over-rides team, so you can still use the slider to influence how your team plays, just set your midfield to team and then adjust accordingly.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:07 PM   Defensive Line and Mentality Post #20
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Quote:
Originally posted by vril:
What are you talking about? The match engine is so random, that none of your assumption is useful. DLine and mentality doesn't affect on style of play of your team. Just luck affects.
You're totally offbase which is why you're not getting the sliders to work the way you want. Read the FAQ and the same thing I say should be covered in the manual.
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