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10-17-2006, 10:51 AM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #31 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by JustinCredible:
Arsenal have an agreement with Barnet. We use Underhill for our away games and in return we play a friendly with them in pre-season and they keep all the gate receipts.
| Don't the home teams object to having to play at Underhill?
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10-17-2006, 01:14 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #32 | | Newb
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Liverpool and Wrexham have a link IRl where they play a friendly at The Racecourse every summer and also Liverpool Reserves play there too, although I'm not entirely sure if this is every reserve home game.
And regarding the Birmingham/Arsenal connection - just because they have had dealings in the past, it doesn't make one a feeder club to the other. Or if this is how it works, then is Ipswich a feeder to Newcastle? And can we feed their ex-players back? |
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10-17-2006, 02:36 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #33 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Nobby_McDonald:
Not only that Hogie, but one with a crap username as well.
Shall we play a game? Whoever can kick him hardest gets to kick him out.
| You'll need to be on your toes for the next couple of months. Newbie Mania is coming to town. |
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10-17-2006, 03:46 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #34 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Guinness79:
That hardly fits into the discussion considering they're both in the EPL.
| It's still relevant in showing that *some* kind of understanding exists. Would you call Birmingham a feeder for Arsenal? Hard to say. Even as such, it's unlikely any agreement will persist. And as you pointed out - both are EPL. This is just an example of a relationship - I'm not claiming all of us in Conference North should go get a relationship with Chelski.
As for Liverpool-Wrexham, obviously some relationship exists. There's Reserve matches & a friendly every year. But can it be accurately modeled by FM's Feeder Clubs? I honestly don't know.
Me personally, I'll avoid feeder clubs until a) I'm very large club that could attract the attention of a continental-quality club, or b) other LLaMas playing the game start giving the feature positive reviews.
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10-17-2006, 06:07 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #35 | | Warming Up
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Right, now that this thread has hone round and around and around and around and around and around, and then round and around some more, I think that there are needs to be some sort of line drawn under it and a conclusion arrived at.
What about...........?
1. Feeder clubs exist, but not in the lower reaches of the English league structure.
2. Lower League English clubs do however, have friendly relations with bigger clubs that allow them to arrange a yearly friendly on a permanent basis, (with the proceeds going to the smaller club).
3. The real issue in this respect, seems to stem from young talented players in the top divisions, being loaned to Conference North/South teams. This is not realistic at all, (and is not confined to feeder club loans either). I think it is unrealistic for a player to drop from Premiership to Conference South, (a drop of 5 divisions), just to play 1st team football. This is the crux of the problem and what needs to be addressed.
I propose, that we limit the number of clubs that you can reasonably expect a player to drop down, to 3 divisions. This means that a youngster at a Premiership team could reasonably bexpect to go on loan to a League 2 side but that a Conference North/South team could not reasonably expect to loan a player, playing at a team higher than League 1.
I know I'm quite new here and I don't want to tell you lot (who've been doing fine without me for years), how to play your game. It just appears that as a group, we seem to have got a little bogged down with this feeder club malarkey and lost sight of the real issue.
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10-17-2006, 06:09 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #36 | | Warming Up
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I propose, that we limit the number of clubs that you can reasonably expect a player to drop down, to 3 divisions
| I propose, that we limit the number of divisions that you can reasonably expect a player to drop down, to 3 divisions. Sorry  .
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10-17-2006, 07:58 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #37 | | Newb
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A lot of the uncertainty is because many of us haven't had first-hand experience with it yet. I wasn't offered in a feeder club in my playing of the Demo, and I'm not going to play the Demo for hours more *just* to see what they're like. Quote:
Originally posted by Jimbokav1971:
3. The real issue in this respect, seems to stem from young talented players in the top divisions, being loaned to Conference North/South teams. This is not realistic at all, (and is not confined to feeder club loans either). I think it is unrealistic for a player to drop from Premiership to Conference South, (a drop of 5 divisions), just to play 1st team football. This is the crux of the problem and what needs to be addressed.
| From what I've heard - and remember this is hearsay - that feeder clubs relations do *not* allow this. It might make Liverpool inclined to loan you Wonderboy, but that doesn't mean Wonderboy is going to want to step down to an obscure club.
The feature will probably need some poking around before a real LLaMa guideline can be drawn.
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10-17-2006, 08:37 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #38 | | Warming Up
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From what I've heard - and remember this is hearsay - that feeder clubs relations do *not* allow this. It might make Liverpool inclined to loan you Wonderboy, but that doesn't mean Wonderboy is going to want to step down to an obscure club.
| I played the demo 3 times as Tamworth, who have Coventry listed as a parent club, and each time I was able to bleg some decent youngsters on loan.
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10-17-2006, 08:57 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #39 | | Joe Blow
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Now why would you play the demo 3 times with the same club?? :eek:
That's just plain sick, TBH. |
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10-17-2006, 09:02 PM
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Feeder clubs - is this LLM or not? Post #40 | | Warming Up
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I played it once properly, once to experiment with only negative teamtalks, and once as an experiment with this striker I bought who won 66 consecutive headers. I was trying to work out if it was a bug or realistic.
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