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Old 07-26-2007, 12:02 PM   can anyone explain this? Post #21
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Dear Rashidi and any other with an informed opinion.

This is EXACTLY what is happening to me. I have far superior possession and passing %s, BUT this possession was in my half and in the midfield.

I am hardly dangerous in front of their goal. TMost of the time, they are playing very tight and difencively as I won PL last season.

Any ideas on how to become more dangerous.

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:14 PM   can anyone explain this? Post #22
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Originally posted by Millie:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Hammer1000:
drevil1969 - With no disrespect intended to Rashidi, dont take what he say's with too much seriousness, the problem is in the game itself not your tactics!.

The simple answer is that the AI is much too deadly in front of goal regardless of the quality of striker, whilst you will often find that even if you have the best strikers in the World, they could'nt hit a barn door with a banjo?.

Trouble is, it would'nt matter if you uploaded pkm's showing the most bizarre and unrealistic scenario's, you will simply be told in no uncertain terms that your tactics are at fault.

I'm afraid what you are seeing is just part and parcel of the game in its current condition, so you have to either live with it or stop playing the game?, as there is quite simply nothing else you can do!.
OK. So all of us that have had this problem in the past and gone on to solve it are deluded, are we?

Yes, there are times where you can do nothing about it - it's just one of those days. However, to assume that in all cases that this is true is why most people get stuck and can't progress with the game.

75% of the time, I would say, it's a problem with the tactics, man-management and team selection of the human, not the super AI. If it happens constantly, it is not the fault of the game. If it happens now and again, then that's bad luck.

As this is a forum for discussion and help, your response does nothing to solve the guys problem. Just because you haven't found the answer to your problems yet doesn't mean there isn't one. </BLOCKQUOTE>

This argument is ridiculous.

IMO everyone agrees that the problem lies with the tactics. The question is simply if it should be that way or not. It's just ridiculous to advocate that specific tactics can lead to a team completely outclassing the other one and yet losing.

Extreme things like that only happen very rarely IRL and don't depend on specific tactical instructions. In FM they are very frequent and depend mostly on tactics, which is very annoying and unrealistic. I have never felt about any unlucky defeat to be due to "one of those days". If I leave my tactics unchanged, there is a high chance for the next games to turn out exactly the same.

As for you "solving the problem" I highly doubt it, unless you are directly implicated in coding the match engine. I don't deny that there are people who know how to play the game to avoid these frequently mentioned weird scenarios, but this doesn't mean you solved anything, it means you know how to work around it.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:29 PM   can anyone explain this? Post #23
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I'm sorry, but you seem to have misunderstood what I've said.

By "solve" it should have been perfectly obvious that I meant "have been able to avoid it".

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Extreme things like that only happen very rarely IRL and don't depend on specific tactical instructions. In FM they are very frequent and depend mostly on tactics, which is very annoying and unrealistic. I have never felt about any unlucky defeat to be due to "one of those days". If I leave my tactics unchanged, there is a high chance for the next games to turn out exactly the same.
I really don't see where we disagree, other than me saying I'm willing to take a hit every now and again. By "one of those days" I mean, quite obviously, that I lost despite dominating. This does not mean I would leave it the same for the next game, or if I did I would change it pretty damn sharpish the moment it looked like things were going wrong.

I believe my main point is this:

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75% of the time, I would say, it's a problem with the tactics, man-management and team selection of the human, not the super AI. If it happens constantly, it is not the fault of the game. If it happens now and again, then that's bad luck.
It all depends on where you move that percentage. Some argue closer to 0%, you seem to be going for 100%. Depends how demanding you are, really.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:54 PM   can anyone explain this? Post #24
 
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so can anyone help me?
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so can anyone help me?
I'm afraid its just something you'll have to learn to live with mate.

It's part and parcel of this game.

I'm using one of Rashidi's tactics and its been immense, but i still lose games i should have won easily far too often?.
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what one is that if you dont mind me asking
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:43 PM   can anyone explain this? Post #27
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what one is that if you dont mind me asking
Its a 4-2-4 available on FM Downloads in a tactic pack. I made the relevant changes thanks to some instructions from the man himself and have recently been using it as a 4-4-2 with long farrows.

It's a great tactic yes!, but it wont stop you seeing what your seeing in the game.(although odds are it will work much better for a bigger club, i'm using it with West Ham).
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:51 PM   can anyone explain this? Post #28
 
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im a happy hammer myself but play as chelsea to experiment and try playing west ham otherwise.were there alot of adjustments made?
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im a happy hammer myself but play as chelsea to experiment and try playing west ham otherwise.were there alot of adjustments made?
Always nice to meet another Iron, good for you mate!. :thup:

I can't upload them as they are not mine, but i will ask Rashidi if it's o.k. as he has given out the instructions i've used so anyone could make them.

Not a lot of adjustments, check out the thread!. :thup:
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:11 PM   can anyone explain this? Post #30
 
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i know this isnt the right thread and might get it closed down but what you think to this season? hopes etc. also he has a few tactics on fm downloads you couldnt point me to which one could you or is that not allowed?
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