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Old 07-25-2007, 03:12 PM   Ruff - Tactic to success (3 part) Post #51
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Just wondering mate, have you tested the tactic with anyone else? just asking coz, SPL not exactly hard if your any of the old firm wiwth a decent tactic!
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:27 PM   Ruff - Tactic to success (3 part) Post #52
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Ruff all your parts are all in here arent they? i did a search for stuff you have done and nothing came up with regards of part 1 and 2
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:23 PM   Ruff - Tactic to success (3 part) Post #53
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i dont have much time to reply really here but for I-Mac, i have used the tactic with watford, took over mid season, they were 13th, won the championship and then came 12th in the premiership next season. Left them and have took over Motherwell, season just finished and first time they been in the top half of the table in 5 seasons.

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Old 07-27-2007, 03:01 PM   Ruff - Tactic to success (3 part) Post #54
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This is an update to my tactic set with a slight change of detail.
My Last post covered my results using my V2 and away tactic that gained me promotion to the English Premier League.
Now it was an easy fact, with my tactic working with me with Celtic and in my first season with Watford, I would be lucky to see a great development next season in the EPL.
I knew there was little to no hope, with my team and the money the board was offering I could manage to keep the team up, but with a browse at my old club I managed to add to my team and slightly more.

Before this season started, my additions to the squad were;

Artur Boruc
Alan Gow
Michael Graham
Jesus Perera
Maciej Zurawski
Didier Zokora
Bobo Balde
Kenny Killer
Maxi Lopez
Fitz Hall

Now not the youngest or greatest bunch of players due to lack of games and age but a mix of free transfers, buy ins and loans secured me some back up to support my team.

For this season, I decided my away tactic, the 5-3-2, would become my basic tactic, due to it being more defensive minded, stronger at the back and would give me a slight hope.

Preseason worked great using my standard away tactic, amazing results to say the least but with 7 goals lost in the first two games of the season, it needed to change in some form.

I am not going to go into full image content, just text changes and why.

The areas of the team instructions which changed for this tactic are as follows;

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI> Team Mentality – remains as it is, reason for this was that with the general pace, the players bought by the main clubs over the transfer market and linked with, if I decided to make my teams mentality defensive, we wouldn’t put pressure on and cause problems and maybe be able to steal goals if we were allowing the opposition to constantly come onto us.
<LI>Creative Freedom – remains as it was, players don’t have the skill to try open up play with silky footwork, trip and most likely injure themselves was my thinking.
<LI> Passing Style – moved to direct from mixed. With my players general stats not being that great and idle for what I wanted, I decided not to risk any long balls, try keep the ball moving with direct passing, might help us break through the midfield.
<LI>Width – opened slightly wider. In the first two games, I noticed the main problem, seemed to be the wings, it seemed most of the opponents play was coming down from here so I hoped opening the width up somewhat that it would help secure some more strength in the midfield.
<LI>Closing Down and Time Wasting – remained as they were, both defensivly minded to try cope with the attacks
<LI>Defensive Line – moved from normal to push up, this was in order to try aid my offside trap but this was purely a gamble tactic, if my players could work it, which some with review of skills, then it would work greatly.
<LI> Tackling and rest of detail remained the same.
</UL>
The player instructions remained the same, I felt with a general overlook with comparison, some of the new changes should help.

So the season over using the 5-3-2 v2 tactic from the third game of the season and the rest is as follows;

Final Table

Results For Season


Finishing 12th made me very happy, at one point was sixth but dropped quickly after a poor run but overall I was happy with the way things turned out and for me was something to build upon, yet the board were not willing to negotiate a better deal to try keep the team up, so I let my contract run out and moved on, Watford the next season got relegated and are back in the championship again.

When I moved on, I went back to Scotland, and now at Motherwell.
My first season at Motherwell, as far from the strongest team and not a strong team in my view so much for the style I like to play, I decided I would stick with the 5-3-2, now more cementing this tactic to a lower team tactic.
Over the last four seasons, they had not being able to break into the top 6 – last season finishing tenth, so my with my newly changed tactic, I aimed to try bring a bit of life back to the club.
I stuck with the new 5-3-2 all season, and ended up being in the top half at the end of the season finishing sixth, allowing me to enter Europe next season, which I was very proud of as to be honest, the team I was given and budget, one of the worst I could of asked for.

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So far my new adaption of the 5-3-2 tactic, has pushed Watford above expectations and also did so with Motherwell, both teams were expected to be relegated and this has saved them.

You can download this tactic, 5-3-2 version 2 below;

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Download from my Rapidshare

Tactic has already been downloaded 14 times before annoucement

Next up for my tactics, is a version 3 to I aint sure yet, I think I am going to adapt Version 2 of the 4-1-3-2, been a great tactic for me since FM 06, but I will be trying to adapt it to a team who is not strong like Celtic or any other big team, try make them an attacking team but also strong minded so that they wont be.......destroyed.... basically by a bigger team, I will update in due course.

Note: this was typed up last night and as from then, i have created a V3 to my 4-1-3-2 tactic to help smaller teams try fight with the top teams. So far i am havign a great season with Motherwell, and will wait till season is over till final update.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:19 PM   Ruff - Tactic to success (3 part) Post #55
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Time for another new version to add to my list of tactics.

So as it stands right now I have four tactics;

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI> 4-1-3-2 Version 1 – Original tactic
<LI> 4-1-3-2 Version 2 – strengthened tactic to add support to the midfield and defence
<LI> 5-3-2 Version 1 – Away tactic to help support team on away days
<LI> 5-3-2 Version 2 – strengthened away tactic built for use on lower league teams.
</UL>

4-1-3-2 version 1 – used with Celtic (premier league)
4-1-3-2 version 2 – used with Celtic(premier league) and Watford (championship)
5-3-2 version 1 – used with Celtic (premier league) and Watford (championship)
5-3-2 version 2 – used with Watford (premiership) and Motherwell (premier league)

From my last post, you are able to see that 5-3-2 tactic was the last one devised, and from the use of teams, you are able to tell that I built it to try support lower teams to compete with big teams, so now I more cement the tactic for use with lower teams but should still work well with bigger.

Now to add to this list, comes 4-1-3-2 Version 3 .
Last season with Motherwell, I managed to get them into the top six for the first time in years.
They had finished (before I came into charge);

7th
7th
7th
10th

My first season with them I finished sixth, just scrapping into the top half before the split.
This season, at the start, I managed to sell one of the players I signed for free for £10m to palmero, I didn’t want to sell him so thats why I set such a high price when his original value was £2.2m but the board accepted it over my head and there was nothing I could do.

So for this season I brought in the following players to work with my new 4-1-3-2.

Filip sebo
Thomas Buffel
Daniele Paponi
Robert olejnik
Jamie Adamsc
Steven Fletcher
Shaun Maloney
Ryan Donk
Dean shiels
Jack Hobbs

Now to the tactic.
After binning my 4-1-3-2 for the time I was with Watford and Motherwell because I didn’t feel that it would be strong enough to keep them going, I devised the 5-3-2 Version 2 tactic but I wanted to bring back my original. So to do this, I needed to find a way of making my original strong attacking formation, still strong in attack, but even stronger in the back so it worked both ways.

The basic setup of the players and the runs is untouched.
The team and player instructions is where I had to look at in detail to devise some new plays.
So to go into detail, to follow will be the changes made in order to try support my new version.

Results and season review found at the end with download

Team Instructions
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Mentality – reduced but still kept as Attacking. Reason for this is simple, with a smaller team and you have several teams who are better rated, you don’t want to over risk the chance of being caught out, so with the slight pull back on the slider, the team is attacking but its only just off the normal level allowing them to keep a frame of mind.
<LI>Creative Freedom – reduced to dead centre normal – the players I had brought in had more skill than previous, but I still didn’t want to take the chance of their being any free flowing thoughts to hinder the team, so a small reduction should keep the players stable and focussed on going for goal.
<LI>Passing Style – increased to the maximum Direct. the players focus on the ball, to keep it down and get it to the player without a risk of a mixed pass being cut off.
<LI>Tempo – slightly reduced, still stays normal but slightly down on the slider, in order to keep the ball and not lose position if a fast break goes wrong.
<LI>Width – increased to above the centre normal. Before it was played as narrow to try keep the ball centre and use the midfield runs to spruce the ball out wide, but I wanted to try stop any wide attacks and give the players some more flow so I opened it up.
<LI>Closing down – slightly increased but still regarded as mixed.
<LI>Time wasting – down from often to mixed, to try keep the players focused on maintaining a strong approach but if the game is going our way, keep it that way.
<LI> Defensive line – slightly pushed up but still as normal to try catch out the pace of the faster players in the league.
<LI>Tackling – remained the same.
</UL>


Goalkeeper
Stats remained the same



Defenders Right and Left
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Closing down – increased to often, to try get the ball to stay out of the box.
<LI>Forward Runs – taken to mixed, wanted them to focus more on supporting the defence rather than the midfield as a lower team.
</UL>

Defenders Centre
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Closing down increased to often to try prevent the ball getting in closer.
</UL>

Defensive Midfielder
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Mentality – changed to defensive, dont want to risk them moving too far up the park and leaving space open.
<LI>Creative Freedom – reduced to normal, like before, I dont want them trying too much and moving up the park when the defence will need them more than the midfield..
<LI>Closing Down – increased to often in order to try prevent more attacks.
<LI>Forward Runs – reduced to mixed to try prevent too much movement.
<LI>Through Balls – now mixed, this is to try cement the whole idea that he now has less freedom with the attacking side of the game and the midfield.
</UL>


Midfielders left and right.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Closing Down – changed from team to player set often, just so its more cemented that with the extra width in the team, they can now look to take on players more in the wing.
<LI>Long Shots – now set to rarely, want the ball to be fed up to the goal with better chance from close range.
</UL>


Midfield centre
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Closing Down – set to maximum of Often, to try stop the ball before it gets past the midfield.
</UL>


Strikers
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Long Shots – now set to mixed from often, try to make the players move in towards goal before shooting.
<LI>Cross Ball – now set to mixed. I started to notice that with the style of width and changes, the strikers opened up, and sometimes, depending on how far wide the ball was, they would move out wide, so I gave them the option, if out there, try get it in.
</UL>


Now its time to see if my changes actually worked

Final SPL Table

Season Results


Now as you can see, this tactic along with 5-3-2 v2, works well with teams who dont have such high expectations in the league and gives them a good grasp.



You can download this tactic from the links below;

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Old 07-28-2007, 02:02 PM   Ruff - Tactic to success (3 part) Post #56
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This is just a season stat update from my last post, as you seen my tactic worked great getting me into second place in the league, so the following season, here is how it went using 4-1-3-2 version 3.

League

Position – 2nd
Games Played - 38
Games Won - 20
Games Drawn - 11
Games Lost - 7
Goals For - 54
Goals Against - 21
Points – 71

Proof


Champions League

Round – Group Stages
Position – 3rd

Proof

Euro Cup

Round – Final
Position – Runner up
Played – Deportivo
Final Score – 2-1 aet

Proof

League Cup

Round – Final
Position – Runner Up
Played - Celtic
Final Score – 4-1

Proof

Scottish Cup

Round – 4th round
Played - Aberdeen
Final Score - 1-0

Proof


Season results

The season gave me few suprises, beating Celtic, Rangers, Villarreal, Barcelona.
Not getting beaten dramatically by Milan aswell helped along the way, you can see the results below.

Fixtures and Results
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